[opendtv] Re: LG LST-3410A PVR

  • From: John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:47:58 +0000 (GMT+00:00)

what unencrypted HDTV channels via QAM?  I think you are more likely to find 
unencrypted SDTV channels on QAM, if they are available there in that form.  
Methinks that most to all DTV channels are only available in encrypted form, at 
least on the major systems.

John Willkie

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hollandsworth <holl_ands@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Nov 9, 2005 8:26 AM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: LG LST-3410A PVR

My comment was primarily directed to using the QAM tuner for unencrypted HD 
channels.
 
However, many more unencrypted SD programs are becoming available for the QAM 
tuner.
From the ones that I have seen, they are a significant improvement over their 
former analog versions.
 
Most of the cable providers are in the process of "upgrading" to a DIGITAL 
SIMULCAST capability, wherein ALL of the analog channels are being replicated 
as unencrypted multiplexed SD channels.  Eventually, most if not all, of the 
analog channels will be replaced by more HD channels (et. al) in order to match 
D* and E* upgrades.
 
TWC-Raleigh reports that their conversion was completed about a month ago.  On 
our local TWC-San Diego, the transition to Digital Simulcast is about 4/6 
complete.
They are packing 13 analog channels into each of six unencrypted QAM-256 
multiplexes.
 
Since many of the formerly non-local analog programs are now being transmitted 
from source-to-destination as all digital MPEG2 signals, we have noticed a 
significant improvement not only in the digital SD programs but also in the 
analog programs that are apparently being reconstituted via a local D/A 
conversion.  Sci-Fi channel is a lot less blurry (but sadly, not HD).
 
The accumulative degradation of the analog signal has been eliminated, which 
was no doubt being accerbated by using the oldest, worst-of-the-worst analog 
channels on C-Band.
 
Advanced StatMuxes at the program generation center are claimed to help 
minimize artifacts...but let's face facts, these are highly compressed SD 
programs and are nowhere near as good as SD programs on Premium channels.
 
I'm still comparing 1) OTA-NTSC and 2) Cable-NTSC to 3) Cable DVR-NTSC and 4) 
Cable DVR-QAM.  Thus far it looks like a tie between 1) OTA-NTSC and 4) CATV 
DVR-QAM (Digital Simulcast).  The 2) Cable-NTSC (direct connect cable to HDTV) 
is slightly grainy.  The 3) cable DVR-NTSC signal is obviously degraded, since 
it goes through an extra analog to MPEG2 to HDMI conversion process in the DVR.
I do not have a Cable QAM tuner, so cannot comment on that option, but I have 
seen reports that it is equal to better than any of the above, since the HDTV 
is presented directly with the MPEG2 digital signal.
 
                           <holl_ands>
 
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Cliff Benham <cbenham@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Most of the unencrypted QAM 64 or 256 multiplexes on cable are extremely 
low-pass filtered NTSC or SDI signals
compressed digitally to fit up to 12 programs in a single 6 mHz channel.
No attempt to bring you quality, just quantity.
On a 19 inch TV who can tell?

Richard Hollandsworth wrote:

>LG site says it also receives unencrypted QAM, which might be useful for 
>recording local HD channels, as well as any analog channels on Basic Cable.
>So a cable only user might find it useful to expand their channel selection 
>beyond just the locals, without incurring outrageous monthly fees.
>Significant step above an on-air NTSC-only TIVO....
> 
>
> 
>



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