while words are important, Frank, we're in complete agreement on this point, which I've made for about 30 years. John Willkie P.S. What closet? -----Original Message----- From: Eory Frank-p22212 <Frank.Eory@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Oct 26, 2005 6:24 PM To: "'opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Interesting Point John Willkie wrote: >I'm just a bit too busy today to deal with trivia. XM and Sirius, by the >way, >do not use DVB-T as you tried to assert. They use COFDM modulation. > >There are many similar definitions of broadcasting.l The ITU has one; so does >the WARC; so does the NARBA, and so does the FCC. IIRC, there is also a >definition in the communicatrions act; All are at odds with your >wiikipedia-level definitions. Thanks John for correcting Bob's misstatement about XM & Sirius' terrestrial repeater network. They use (C)OFDM systems, but not DVB-T. Just as 802.11a & 802.11g are (C)OFDM systems, designed to a different set of specifications than either DVB-T or XM or Sirius. Leave it to you, the closet lawyer, to make all this noise about the precise definition of "broadcasting." I submit that American consumers don't care about your definition, or mine, or the FCC's. They know "television programming" when they see it, and they know "wireless" services when they see those -- and they don't routinely think of "television programming" as being a "wireless" service. That view may change when enough laptops and cellphones are enabled for wireless video via DVB-H. It is extremely unlikely that such portable devices will ever be enabled with ATSC receivers, for technical and economic reasons. The phrases "low power," "low cost" and "reliable" simply don't apply to ATSC receivers, and probably never will. -- Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.