[opendtv] Re: IEEE Ericsson article on use of LTE for TV

  • From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:57:22 -0500

Craig Birkmaier wrote:

> The article stated correctly that "AT&T made lots of concessions to
> get iPhone, such as granting Apple control over the software and
> updates." 
>
> Verizon has now agreed to the same concessions.

But the article you posted said:

"Perhaps 18 months ago, Verizon would have ceded more to Apple. After all, AT&T 
was stealing away customers who wanted iPhone, and Verizon had nothing even 
remotely comparable to offer. But then in autumn 2009, Verizon launched the 
Droid -- a cool, Android 2.0 handset supported by a $100-million marketing 
campaign. Other hot-in-demand Droids followed."

And it goes on to say further:

"But Verizon's bargaining position is stronger than it seems because of bigger 
trends and the large number of successful Android phones the carrier and others 
sell. Apple claims to have sold 14.1 million iPhone during third calendar 
quarter, but the company measures sales into the channel. Gartner, which 
measures actual sales to users, put the number sold at 13.5 million. Assuming 
AT&T Q3 iPhone activations were for devices sold during the quarter, the one 
carrier in one market accounted for about 38.4 percent of global iPhone sales 
in Q3. The United States' second largest carrier is hugely important to Apple, 
but adding the nation's largest would be even more important, particularly when 
looking at larger trends related to Android device sales."

> Exactly as I stated above. So if Android solved their problems, why
> was Verizon willing to agree to the same terms as AT&T?

And who says they did? I have no idea what terms were discussed, however the 
implication from those quotes is clearly that Verizon now has MORE bargaining 
power, NOT less, as you prefer to believe. It is Apple that has less bargaining 
power now, than it did when it went to AT&T in 2007.

> How do you keep missing the fact that Apple is the most valuable
> consumer electronics company in the world?
>
> How do you keep missing the fact that they garner the lions share of
> profits from virtually every market they enter.

How is it that you don't see how hopeless you sound?

I find the Apple business model to be distasteful. And I can only wonder why 
you gush over them, but rail against the congloms. I don't subscribe to any 
scheme that wants to tether me, unless there's no other practical alternative 
(e.g. the electric grid, or water and sewer service).

Bert

 
 
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