[opendtv] Re: How the FCC actually defines "telecom"
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:13:16 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
You provided NO PROOF of you claim that the telcos were deploying fiber
in the '80s.
Whaaaa? I didn't think we had to go back to ground zero? It's always a mystery
to me, just what you don't get.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-trunk-line.htm
http://www.oocities.org/~katmci/pdfs/sonet.pdf
This is absurd. BISDN saw widespread deployments in the '90s.
Verify and substantiate. You're clueless, Craig. Try this, since you're too
lazy to educate yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Integrated_Services_Digital_Network
"The B-ISDN vision has been overtaken by other disruptive technologies used in
the Internet. The ATM technology survived as a low-level layer in most digital
subscriber line (DSL) technologies, and as a payload type in some wireless
technologies such as WiMAX."
I already spoonfed you the information. The only aspect of BISDN that did
survive, and I mean that got implemented at all, was the ATM link between homes
and COs, **only** as a carrier of ADSL. That's all. The ATM signaling never
went global, from home to home. You never got a chance to dial up a BISDN call.
Still, in the 1980s, that was the plan of the telephone industry. **Not**
Internet. (Parenthetically, even plain old ISDN was not very successful in the
US. For one thing, by the mid-1990s, 56 Kbaud modems had arrived, so the two 64
kb/s ISDN lines were not so impressive. But there were proprietary corporate
and campus telephone networks that offered that same basic ISDN type of digital
service.)
I have repeatedly discussed the ARPANET and the history
And yet, as you just proved again TWICE, you haven't a clue. The Internet is
not a product of the telecom industry, but it displaced the telecom industry's
in-house effort. Both DARPA and the telecoms were developing these new
technologies, in the 1980s. Deployment of fiber, by the telecoms, which began
in the 1980s, had NOTHING to do with the Internet.
But the Internet DID WIN. Your argument is completely without merit.
You made only one intelligent comment in this entire thread. And then you blew
it, evidently not getting the significance of what you had said. Which was, had
the cable industry been responsible for bringing IP to the public, it would
have created walled-in systems. And the public would have not been the wiser.
Now, in your usual less-than-credible way, you try to proclaim that Internet
neutrality was ordained by the gods. You need to substantiate these
proclamations. In doing so, you might just learn a thing or two.
Bert
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