[opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?

  • From: "Mark A. Aitken (W)" <maitken@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:04:20 -0500

I tested the 5th GEN with Zenith. What I tested worked well, and led to our 
statements of the same...

//www.freelists.org/archives/opendtv/06-2004/msg00113.html

What's the issue? I am waiting along with the rest of the DTV community for 
availability...

Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:43 AM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?


> You OBVIOUSLY don't know Mark Schubin.  The tests led him to believe that
> 8-VSB can work, and he announced it that day.  I'll take his word as
> "gospel."
>
> John Willkie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:59 PM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
>
>
>> Bob Miller wrote:
>>
>> Who does not want good inexpensive stand
>>  > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
>>  > might build one and keep it off the market.
>>
>> Well, if we really want to get paranoid, maybe the most recent Shubin
>> apartment tests were rigged, deceptive, or otherwise non-reproducible
>> somehow. (??) In that case maybe no one yet really knows how to make
>> good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers.
>>
>> Heck, to some extent that is what happened with the other 4 generations
>> so maybe it's time to get skeptical again.  ;-)
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> > No problem switching to the 8-VSB  mindset. After all we were one of 
>> > the
>> > first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then
>> > ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I
>> > can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck.
>> >
>> > But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the 
>> > question
>> > of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something
>> > happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone
>> > receivers.
>> >
>> > Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness
>> > that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand
>> > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
>> > might build one and keep it off the market.
>> >
>> > On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a
>> > receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted?
>> >
>> > I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and
>> > mother nature IMO for that matter. :'(
>> >
>> > Bob Miller
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kon Wilms wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the
>> >>award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB
>> >>and never again rock the boat.
>> >>
>> >>Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting
>> >>boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man.
>> >>
>> >>BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple?
>> >>
>> >>Cheers
>> >>Kon
>> >>
>> >>On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in
>> >>>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel
> like
>> >>>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an
> award,
>> >>>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound
>> >>>good. What do they guarantee BTW?
>> >>>
>> >>>Bob Miller
>> >>>
>> >>>Larry Bloomfield wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a
> time we
>> >>>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15
> years to
>> >>>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a
> survivor
>> >>>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their
> first
>> >>>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on
> your
>> >>>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an
> annual
>> >>>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch
> Potato
>> >>>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years 
>> >>>>ago,
>> >>>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes.
> It's a
>> >>>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun.
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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