[opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:43:30 -0800
You OBVIOUSLY don't know Mark Schubin. The tests led him to believe that
8-VSB can work, and he announced it that day. I'll take his word as
"gospel."
John Willkie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:59 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
> Bob Miller wrote:
>
> Who does not want good inexpensive stand
> > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
> > might build one and keep it off the market.
>
> Well, if we really want to get paranoid, maybe the most recent Shubin
> apartment tests were rigged, deceptive, or otherwise non-reproducible
> somehow. (??) In that case maybe no one yet really knows how to make
> good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers.
>
> Heck, to some extent that is what happened with the other 4 generations
> so maybe it's time to get skeptical again. ;-)
>
> - Tom
>
>
>
> > No problem switching to the 8-VSB mindset. After all we were one of the
> > first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then
> > ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I
> > can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck.
> >
> > But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the question
> > of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something
> > happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone
> > receivers.
> >
> > Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness
> > that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand
> > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
> > might build one and keep it off the market.
> >
> > On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a
> > receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted?
> >
> > I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and
> > mother nature IMO for that matter. :'(
> >
> > Bob Miller
> >
> >
> >
> > Kon Wilms wrote:
> >
> >
> >>You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the
> >>award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB
> >>and never again rock the boat.
> >>
> >>Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting
> >>boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man.
> >>
> >>BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple?
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>Kon
> >>
> >>On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in
> >>>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel
like
> >>>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an
award,
> >>>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound
> >>>good. What do they guarantee BTW?
> >>>
> >>>Bob Miller
> >>>
> >>>Larry Bloomfield wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a
time we
> >>>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15
years to
> >>>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a
survivor
> >>>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their
first
> >>>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on
your
> >>>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an
annual
> >>>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch
Potato
> >>>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years ago,
> >>>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes.
It's a
> >>>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun.
> >>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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