Bert: I know that in the big picture of things, it is most fashionable nowadays not to give a whole heck of a hoot about the trials and tribulations of the average person. But, unfortunately, I am a still a member in good standing of the old school who still does. I also am extremely concerned about taking capital by the bundle out of the hands of the average person and collectivizing it in the hands of a very few. This happened in 1929, and it could very well happen again in 2004. The business world of the depression era was relatively stupid, by reason of the fact that they very coldheartedly and methodically went about the business of firing 27% of their own marketplace, and then sat around in their mahogany paneled board rooms and wondered why their profits decreased each ensuing year. DA? The theology of the day (As it appears to be today) as well was that other folks would hire the ones that they canned. Didn't happen in '29, and won't happen now, if we continue on down the present economic road. You need the geographical and purchasing decision making spread of a very ubiquitous consumer marketplace to feed all of the engines of industry in this country. There simply aren't enough rich folks to go around around to do such all on their own, and people in foreign countries making $3K to $11K per year, if they're lucky that is, really aren't going to be of much help either. As well, the Rich and Famous seldom pour money into enterprises who have a very limited marketplace...if any at all, and thus, the prospect of a lousy ROI. So, the trickle down theory of economics simply doesn't work. It didn't work in good old '29, and won't work today either. What works is to put people back to work, pay them a decent wage, and encourage them to spend up a storm. That's the stuff of economic recoveries, not canning as large a percentage of your marketplace and those of others as you possibly can can, and then hooting and hollering about prosperity being just around the corner. Mr. Hoover and the business community of his day tried that approach, and you can readily see what it got both of them. Greed will always outdistance common sense, but, it's common sense in the end run that is required to get this nation as fully employed as is possible, and accordingly, back on a proper consumer based economic track. This does not take a dose of legislation on the part of the government, it takes a dose of intelligence on the part of the boys in the boardrooms across the length and breath of this country. Until they smarten-up, and smell the coffee that they are currently spilling all over themselves, we all are in serious trouble...even those of us who are still lucky enough to be gainfully employed, because our turn easily could be next...believe me it could. As they say: "It's a recession, when my next door neighbor loses his or her job. It's a depression, when I lose mine." Unless we all smarten-up, that depression could be around the corner for all too many additional of us. =20 Drew Lindhoff. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Manfredi, Albert E [mailto:albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:12 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: How India is saving capitalism Drew Lindhoff wrote: > Monty: >=3D20 > Carrying-out Katharine's logic to its fullest extent, then, if I buy a >gun and kill several people who design and manufacture guns, then =20 >they're at fault for designing and manufacturing them, and I'm not for >using them against them in a lethal manner? Give me a break.=3D20 > I wonder > if Katharine would be so cavalier about the offshoring issue,=3D20 if = >her job had been offshored...and nowadays, it might easily be. It's all part of the same big picture, though. Whether it's protecting = =3D jobs or protecting IP, the Internet breaks down geographic barriers for =3D work involving only code (or text, or ideas). On the jobs front, = this is =3D much like efficient transportation of goods removing the need for local =3D manufacturing jobs, after the industrial revolution. It's a seismic shift in the economy. I don't know that it can be =3D stopped. I would expect that any legislation to restrict this use of the =3D Internet internationally would at best delay the inevitable. There = are =3D too many advantages to consumers here and to workers everywhere else to =3D stop this train. What we don't know now is what there will be to replace =3D these lost jobs. For example, what would all these folks working on =3D software today have been doing in the 1950s? Fifty years ago, how many =3D could have predicted the extent to which the economy would have depended =3D on these software jobs that they couldn't even comprehend? The same is most likely the case now. We don't know. Bert =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org=20 - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.