[opendtv] Re: How India is saving capitalism
- From: "John Willkie" <jmwillkie@xxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:24:30 -0700
So, Drew, you're a "pie-splitter" (aka a Democrat). Me, I'm closer to a
"pie baker" (Libertarian/Republican). Have you ever seen the "ship (liner)
destruction facilities in southern India? They hammer these things to
death, lying on their sides on the beach like so many dead whales.
Where in your city would you like these facilities to be located? That's
the end result of your preferences.
Me, I like "comparative advantages." By the way, there is no capitalism in
India: nobody in their right mind lets their IP be created there -- there
are no real IP protection laws in India, and IP has value, just not in
India. For the last 40 or more years.
John Willkie
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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:19 AM
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Subject: [opendtv] Re: How India is saving capitalism
John:
It is if it causes a depression to take place in this country as more
than just call centers are offshored to save a buck or two. Also, as I
understand it, the folks in India are being paid anywhere from $3K to
$11K per year to handle these offshored jobs. If that's the middle
class in India, I sure would hate to know what the poor folks are
making.
Drew Lindhoff. =20
-----Original Message-----
From: John Shutt [mailto:shuttj@xxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:09 PM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: How India is saving capitalism
It was about a decade ago that the internet was supposed to open up the
possibility of telecommuting to your job...staying at home, not clogging
up the highways, doing all of your work from the comfort of your own
home.
Once the idea of telecommuting became a reality, it was an unintended
consequence that you could just as easily telecommute from Bangalore as
you could from Knob Hill.
India has had for much of it's history a socialist economy. They are
just now embracing capitalism and the results are beginning to show.
However, all of these IT jobs in India are fine as long as India is at
peace with her neighbors the Pakistanis and the Chinese. Right now with
the War on Terrorism raging, and the U.S. being very heavy handed with
the Musharraf regime to play nice with India, things are calming down.
What happens if Pakistan and India have a third war over the Jammu and
Kashmir region, as seemed likely just two short years ago? Suddenly,
the prospects of economic and political instability in India makes the
idea of having you IT brain trust there not so appealing, and the
highest priority jobs will come home again.
Or maybe India realizes that in order to keep her IT jobs and the
standard of living going for their growing middle class they need to
keep the saber rattling down to a minimum, and the real unintended
consequence of outsourcing becomes a safer and more stable global
community.
Is outsourcing of call centers, then, such a high price to pay for world
peace?
Cheers,
John Shutt
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From: "Lindhoff, Andrew (PHPPO)" <axl1@xxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: How India is saving capitalism
> Monty:
>
> Carrying-out Katharine's logic to its fullest extent, then, if I buy a
> gun and kill several people who design and manufacture guns, then=20
> they're at fault for designing and manufacturing them, and I'm not for
> using them against them in a lethal manner? Give me a break. I=20
> wonder if Katharine would be so cavalier about the offshoring issue,=20
> if her job had been offshored...and nowadays, it might easily be.
>
> Drew Lindhoff. =3D20
=20
=20
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