Craig Birkmaier wrote: > An app only requires a click on an icon. Not a true comparison. An "app" first requires an app store, then it requires a click of an icon thereafter. A URL first requires a keyboard, then it requires a click of an icon thereafter. I suggest to you the URL approach is at least as easy. As I've suggested before, those who become instantly incompetent and brain-dead when "TV" is involved can have the salesman at Best Buy pre-type their favorite URLs and make up a nice little "favorites" folder for TV channels. And then they can feel really foolish for having had to get help for something so trivial. > They are designed to work with the current family room mentality of > a simple remote control. And a remote mouse is just about the simplest "remote control" anyone has yet been able to devise, although it's infinitely more flexible than the old style TV remotes. I find it astonishing that pundits and trade scribes haven't been able to figure this out yet. >> And the right way to do this is to make the device appear to be any >> generic PC, to the web server. > > How do you do this? I've done it. The Sony Vaio STB device I looked at some years ago did it too. Why is this so difficult? You're not "spoofing" anything. You're merely saying, for an Internet TV device of the size of a tablet or something with a much larger screen, the PC video stream is perfectly fine. You don't need special accommodations for a tiny screen, nor do you need special accommodations for a UI. Especially true now that OSs are available that support both a touch and a keyboard interface. Therefore, the servers don’t need to be set up in a special and easy to identify way. The device can use standard PC-style browsers. The fact that Steve Jobs made his devices easy to identify, so the congloms could happily block content or otherwise not meet his special needs, is exactly why I thought he took the wrong approach. If Android followed suit, that's their problem. I would expect the Surface Pro tablet should have no problems at all with conglom Internet content. > Not lame at all. There are good reasons why we are seeing evolution in > desktop OS designs - just look at Windows 8. Evolution is fine as long as the UI isn't great for tablets and crappy for everything else. Have you been reading the complaints about Win8? Seems like you haven't. Win8, in its default mode, is better suited for handheld devices than it is for a PC or connected TV type of device. You can set it up differently even in its original form, but I'll bet you that Win8.1 will better accommodate devices with larger and more distant screens than a tablet or smartphone. There's simply no good excuse why a connected TV and a PC should have drastically different UIs, i.e. different enough that servers need to make special accommodations for the connected TV product. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.