Watermarks can survive multiple re-encodings and could be applied at the source without anyone further down the chain being aware of them. Jim Albro ----- Original Message ----- From: John Willkie To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: HDMI capture Richard; In general, this is "possible." However, the information you provided was either prospective, or relating to the IPTV market. This was, simply, a broadcast situation. NBC's content is encoded from 45 mb feeds at broadcast stations, and this is not a feature of broadcast encoders. Yet. John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hollandsworth Sent: May 25, 2008 12:17 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: HDMI capture Video programs are being "watermarked" at several steps in the distribution chain so that when a video shows up as an unauthorized BitTorrent release, the owner of the cable box can be traced....also if it's an inside job at headend. For example: http://www.drmwatch.com/article.php/3680811 http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section_id=431&doc_id=145886 holl_ands ================================== ShLampen <shlampen@xxxxxxx> wrote: Gefen does offer a box that converts to SDI with the HDCP turned off. However, you have to sign a release that says all the content you intend to run through the box you OWN yourself. Not sure how they would police that!!! Steve Lampen Belden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.