[opendtv] Re: Google Fiber 2.0 targets the city where it will stage its comeback, as AT&T Fiber prepares to go nuclear | ZDNet
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:22:15 -0500
On Feb 16, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
They were knee-jerk articles from predictable, self-serving nay-sayers, when
the decision happened. To be expected.
No Bert. They were official announcements from the telcos that the order
changed the prospects for successful new deployments.
And none of their predictions occurred. I equate this type of hype with the
equally nonsensical hype about a plummeting stock market, if/when Trump was
elected. It might have happened THAT NIGHT, knee jerk, but it would have made
no sense. And in fact, as soon as the markets re-opened, the drama was proven
to be bogus.
NICE TRY. But the fact is that there were numerous announcements about Google,
AT&T and Verizon that they were pulling back.
The firestorm that was created with the Set Top Box NPRM illustrated
how the Title X decision could be used to regulate a critical aspect
of Internet content delivery, while simultaneously impacting the fixed
facility competitors to Internet streaming video services.
A stretch, Craig. The STB NPRM was a big yawn (not unlike AM
revitalization!), and the slow-down in FTTH deployments was clearly unrelated
to Title II, and instead directly related to costs. I say clearly, because of
the timing.
Nope. Reality.
The prospects for a rollback of the Title II decision and and the massive
increase in regulations under previous administrations is the reason that the
telcos are now talking about new deployments.
In effect, maybe so. I don't think this was their intention initially. I
think that Verizon expected people to leap at FiOS, and that were met instead
with way less demand than they predicted.
Perhaps. It is always difficult to take customers from entrenched competitors.
When FTTH was first deployed it offered a significant performance advantage
over cable broadband; That advantage has largely disappeared as cable has moved
to Docsis 2.0 and soon 3.0.
But equally important, the economic success of FTTH was based on selling
bundles of services - TV, broadband and phone. With people looking for cheaper
alternatives to MVPD service the prospects of selling both MVPD and broadband
are somewhat diminished.
And I think Google too, was met with either less demand, or greater costs, or
both, than they had expected.
After they consumed the low hanging fruit by bailing out failed municipal
systems they faced the same cost issues as AT&T and Verizon.
So now, sure, wireless is a natural alternative. I'm always baffled by how
companies shoot themselves in the foot. We've been over such things often.
Why do they make life more difficult for themselves? Why do they become so
greedy that it backfires on them? Happens a lot.
????
I said that such 3G USB sticks existed, for years. But no one expected them
to offer the service as cabled broadband to homes.
So why did Verizon begin offering an LTE based home broadband service in 2012?
I mean, they had time of day restrictions, capacity limits, and so on. It was
a different equation. Now, fixed wireless broadband is being considered
instead of FTTH or cable broadband.
Yes, there are some issues as you describe, although the peak usage for home
broadband is late evening when cellular networks are not being used heavily.
One big hole in your argument Bert. Wireless broadband requires
spectrum; that costs billions too.
True, but now with 5G, with spectrum way up in the 10s of GHz, the spectrum
crunch could be greatly alleviated. I'm not sure how it will be priced, way
up in bands that are not even licensed yet.
If this is where the new service operate you are correct. So why are the telcos
still willing to pay billions for the broadcast spectrum that is currently
being auctioned?
Could it be that this spectrum is very good for LTE broadcast services?
Regards
Craig
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