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Date: August 28, 2016 at 7:00:16 PM EDT
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I hate this little gotcha with Freelists...
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [opendtv] Re: Google Fiber and Verizon FiOS
No cable or FIOS for me so long as they will only rent me a set top box,
not allow me to own one, drill a hole
in my basement wall to install fiber into my house and run their
equipment on my AC power.
The prime reason I will never subscribe to any cable service is that
they will charge me to watch programming full of commercials and not
allow me to skip through them with a TIVO like device, which they will
only rent me.
Screw all of that.
Curmudgeonly yours,
Cliff Benham
On 8/28/2016 4:24 PM, Craig Birkmaier wrote:
Let's make this simple Bert.
Overbuilding is both expensive and risky - you must attract subscribers from
the entrenched incumbents who have a major cost advantage. This was
marginally viable in large, dense markets where the overbuild company could
expect to sell MVPD service, and more recently broadband service.
In the markets where Google operates, about 65% of the subscribers buy both
broadband and MVPD service.
Take away the revenues from MVPD service and the investment becomes less
viable, more risky. Add the risk of FCC rate regulation and other mandates
and you walk away...
Regards
Craig
On Aug 28, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Albert Manfredi
<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here, Craig. Read this:
https://consumerist.com/2014/03/12/dont-count-on-verizon-fios-coming-to-your-town-anytime-soon/
and then explain to me how the words are any different than the words used
to explain why Google Fiber had to quit.
The words say, it costs a lot of money, and it takes a long time to recoup
expenses. The words say, Verizon is bullish on wireless.
And oh well, this was years before any Title II decision. So no vague and
generic arm waving possible there, right Craig? These decisions have
nothing to do with Title II.
Could it be that Google had to rediscover what Verizon already knew many
years ago? Could it be that using Google Fiber as your excuse to claim that
there's plenty of broadband competition was a tad premature?
Bert
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