[opendtv] Re: Free TV URL list
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:40:18 -0500
Whoops, accidental send.
> On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Bert wrote:
>
>> In spite of Craig's insistence, that's your problem. If you were trying to
>> stream any random TV station, e.g. no doubt many of those on wwitv.com, or a
>> significant amount of stuff on YouTube, you'll have problems without Flash
>> Player.
>
> As I said yesterday, this is rapidly becoming a legacy problem. I use iOS
> devices all the time and almost never have a problem due to the lack of
> Flash. And Google quickly followed Apple, choosing not to support Flash on
> Android. These are the growth platforms, as PCs continue their death spiral
> in the consumer space, and mobile platforms keep chipping away at the PCs
> dominance in the enterprise.
>
> Who knows why Steve Jobs had such a bug up his *ss about Adobe. He
> prematurely crippled his iOS boxes, and Android happily tagged along. Too
> bad, so sad.
>
> The only person I've seen with a bug up his PC is you Bert. Apple was
> perfectly clear why they chose not to support Flash on mobile devices:
> 1. Performance and battery life - Flash has huge resource requirements,
> especially for the codecs they were using. Adobe tried to make Flash player
> 10 mobile friendly and failed. They then announced that they would move on
> to HTML5.
> 2. Flash is not standards based - Apple threw their support behind HTML 5 and
> h.264. The rest of the world has followed.
>
>> I repeat: Flash continues to be the favorite, on sites that support multiple
>> formats. I uninstalled Flash just to prove that to myself. SOME sites go to
>> a different protocol, but occasionally lacking features like full screen.
>> And some sites don't work at all, without Flash. Simple as that. I could
>> uninstall Flash to test individual sites again, but what's the point?
>
> The facts simply do not support this contention. Flash no longer dominates
> streaming video on the Internet; it does enjoy strong legacy support,
> especially among sites that committed to Flash years ago and lack the
> resources to move into the future - and yes, I am talking about broadcasters,
> who have spent most of the last two decades trying to slow the technologies
> that are replacing them.
>>
>> This might change before too long, but it's silly to deny the obvious. Steve
>> Jobs was premature. Perhaps to force the faithful onto iTunes. Who knows why
>> this too should be a matter for incessant debate?
iTunes was around long before this debate started, dominating the shift to
"mobile music."
Apple has often been "premature" in adopting new technologies and abandoning
old ones. This has served them well and helped to move the technology industry
forward. But far more important, after Jobs returned, Apple moved away from
being proprietary to being much more standards based. Intel processors, USB,
h.264, HTML5, and the list keeps growing.
The incessant debate about Flash was over by 2010...
It will soon be 2014 Bert.
Regards
Craig
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