[opendtv] Re: FCC chairman offers plan to save broadcasters - CNET

  • From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 10:18:48 -0400

On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Bob Miller <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Craig,
> 
> It seems to me that the "politically motivated" fall on the side of climate 
> change deniers. We now are at the point that even Republicans admit to 
> climate change, just not the man made part. IMO it is man made but even if it 
> isn't and there is climate change we better get busy understanding it and 
> doing all we can to control it. To say we can't, now that would be gross. I 
> think we can.

Good to hear from you again Bob!

I did not mean to stir up an off topic debate, just to point out that politics 
and science and journalism have turned into a strange brew. There is no such 
thing as settled science - history proves this time and again. The scientific 
method abhors this kind of closed minded attitude. 

I would also add, that in terms of reproducible scientific proof, the 
supposedly settled science of the climate models that the man made climate 
change movement relies upon for these claims, have proven to be even less 
reliable than a five day weather forecast.

We can disagree about political motivation on both sides of this issue, but I 
am not aware of any Republicans suggesting that we should stifle the debate. 
Yet the LA Times has announced they will no longer publish opposing views, and 
the Washington Post received a petition signed by 110,000 people, saying that 
the Post should no longer publish anything that challenges the settled science 
of Global Warming. This not only runs contrary to the First Amendment, but 
reeks of totalitarianism.

Regards
Craig

> 
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Albert Manfredi 
>> > <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Most of the world does not have HDTV broadcasts.
>> >
>> > Several European countries deployed SFNs. Check them out, Craig. Tell me 
>> > why they all use big sticks, perhaps one or two medium sticks as well, no 
>> > cellco sized sticks, and never a dense mesh. If big sticks are so much 
>> > more expensive than small cellco-sized cells and dense deployments, 
>> > wouldn't you expect these TV broadcasters to have made the switch?
>> 
>> Because that is how they designed the system, nothing more. And the standard 
>> they used is dated, although it did use OFDM. It was never designed to be 
>> used with cellphones, much of the infrastructure for which was being built 
>> out at the same time as these early SFNs.
>> 
>> > Go back to my original comments. I never said a single stick. I did say 
>> > "few big sticks."
>> > I believe in math, Craig. I don't believe in BS simplistic marketing hype.
>> 
>> Stop the crap Bert. The former Harris employee was not talking about a few 
>> big sticks. The system they envision uses the existing station big stick as 
>> the master, with the cells as synchronized slaves to make the whole thing 
>> work because of the problems with multi path from the big stick. By doing 
>> this they IMPROVE spectral efficiency compared with the big stick alone.
>> 
>> In reality the big stick is more of a headache than it is worth, but it 
>> extend the reach of the station outside the urban core market where it needs 
>> help from the SFN to work. The station could do the same by adding cells in 
>> these more distant communities.
>> 
>> > Now again, focusing on LTE, tell me what *it's* SFN limitations are. I'll 
>> > give you a huge hint: LTE is designed for 4G (which depends on small cells 
>> > for good frequency reuse), to **mobile** devices, and otherwise must 
>> > follow the same rules as DVB-T/T2 has to follow, for SFNs. Basic math and 
>> > basic physics. Not marketing hype.
>> 
>> These cells exist, they can be leased in whatever density is needed. The 
>> requirements for an LTE broadcast network are NOT the same as for a 
>> voice/data network in densely populated urban areas. These cells must be 
>> close because of the low power used by the mobile devices to communicate 
>> with the cells. The power levels for the LTE broadcast service can be higher 
>> and thus cover more area from a single cell. The correct solution is to add 
>> cells where needed to deal with terrain blocking. None of this is 
>> technically challenging Bert, nor is it expensive relative to operating a 
>> big stick.
>> >
>> > Focus on the details for a change, Craig. I can read the generic marketing 
>> > BS from the trade scribes already.
>> 
>> 
>> Wraps you need to talk face to face with the engineers that are challenging 
>> your vision of the correct broadcast infrastructure - apparently having 
>> facts reported by a "scribe" makes them suspect Bert.
>> 
>> Then again, man made climate change is now "settled science," and some 
>> publications are refusing to print anything that challenges this politically 
>> motivated corruption of science.
>> 
>> At least we can still disagree without shutting down debate.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Craig
>> 
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