[opendtv] Re: FCC TAKES STEPS TO ALLOW NEW LOW POWER DEVICES ON VACANT TV CH

  • From: "Bob Miller" <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:42:44 -0400

People watch quality and with 8-VSB you can't even get it. Can't watch
what isn't there.

USDTV does not mean no HDTV. It means that the market will decide HDTV
or no HDTV. USDTV could decide that it should deliver HDTV. If they
can rent enough spectrum they can do that especially with MPEG4 AVC.
Their landlords could decide that they will deliver HD and leave less
spectrum for USDTV. It is all about choice. I don't think USDTV has a
chance, never did. Just more money down the drain. Unless of course
they have something new up their sleeve.

Bob Miller

On 10/14/06, John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But, the right modulation has been selected for the US, Canada, Mexico, South 
Korea, and Australia.  The choices there don't straitjacket broadcasters, where 
all the other countries DO!

USDTV means "NO HDTV."  That's a non-starter, unless you are in a country not 
listed above.

It's not about modulation, it's about quality.  People don't watch modulation, 
and they tend to like quality.  In countries other than those listed above, 
they'll have to pay to watch HDTV.

John Willkie

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Miller <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 14, 2006 4:00 PM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: FCC TAKES STEPS TO ALLOW NEW LOW POWER DEVICES ON 
VACANT TV CH
>
>On 10/14/06, Albert Manfredi <bert22306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Bob Miller wrote:
>>
>> >No one going to mention broadband over power lines or gas
>> >pipes? Of course neither of those will leak right?
>>
>> My Dilbert daily calendar had one cartoon about Dilbert's company working on
>> broadband over sewer lines. Is that the sort of thing we're talking about?
>>
>No, gas lines and power lines is what I was talking about but sewer
>lines are another option. There was or is or are companies doing or
>thinking of doing them all. The sewer option included a pig like in
>oil pipes to carry the fiber they lay there. I think gas lines are the
>best option of these.
>
>> >It looks like a full court press on OTA spectrum to me. Has since 2000.
>>
>> >The only fly in this ointment is the success that OTA is having over
>> >there, over just about any there. And this will all come to pass in
>> >early 2009??? Just after China shows off its new OTA at the Olympics
>> >in the summer of 2008.
>>
>> I'm afraid you're still missing the boat, Bob, because you continue to think
>> that this is about modulation. Instead, it's all about how easy it is to
>> sucker the US buying public into subscription schemes.
>>
>I'm afraid you are missing the boat also Bert, it IS all about the
>modulation. With the right modulation a free OTA is a viable option.
>In the UK a free OTA is attracting former cable networks back to ad
>supported free OTA which is growing faster than anything else.
>
>Same would/could have happened here with the right modulation. Or
>maybe with one more try from USDTV 8-VSB will prove me wrong. NOT!
>USDTV is out of bankruptcy again. One more for the gipper.
>
>> *Precisely* the same thing is happening to so-called HD Radio. The tactics
>> used in your consumer electronics stores are identical, even though the IBOC
>> radio system uses your cure-all modulation.
>>
>The tactics may be the same, is the outcome the same? I think that has
>not been decided.
>
>IBOC ismoch, in the end when enough 700 MHz or below spectrum is open
>for business  you will see competition that will erase most of what we
>now call radio and TV whether satellite, telco, cable or whatever.
>
>It will be a different ballgame.
>
>The tigers are going to win this one and the next four against the
>Mets IMO. Rooting for the old home team this year. Happen to be in
>Michigan this week.
>
>> Read this article. It describes my experience with HD Radio, which also
>> describes my experience with DTT, to a T. Customers are always diverted away
>> from the FTA options to yet another subscription scheme, and often are
>> completely mislead about the true costs. I've *always* had the salesman try
>> to steer me over to satellite radio when asking about HD radio.
>>
>> http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/radio_report_card_hd/
>>
>> IMO, to combat this white spaces regulation, what broadcasters should do is
>> to get in there first, so as to ensure that whatever use this spectrum is
>> put to does not interfere with the broadcasts. Use it to offer Internet
>> access, use it for low power TV, use it for low power translators. In other
>> words, play the game.
>>
>Not many of them got in there with Auctions 44 or 49 where pennies
>bought 700 MHz spectrum why would you expect them to get into spectrum
>that is free? They would have no edge, no government decree from
>trusted Congressional critters. They are all about government
>monopolies not free competition. Must carry and such.
>
>They are looking the other way while others will hit broadcast balls
>out of the park.
>
>Bob Miller
>
>> Bert
>
>
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