[opendtv] Re: --FCC OKs WiFi between TV channels

  • From: "John Willkie" <jmwillkie@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:43:22 -0700

So, you had a meeting with technical idiots, and you were in good company.
Some people are victims, others are not.

John Willkie

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Subject: [opendtv] Re: --FCC OKs WiFi between TV channels


Manfredi, Albert E wrote:

>Tom Barry wrote:
>
>
>
>>I've sometimes thought that but that alone doesn't explain why they
>>seem to want to hold the duplicate spectrum forever.  I've been
>>corrected a number of times on this by people associated with or
>>sympathetic to the broadcast industry.  The broadcasters spend a huge
>>amount of money on power and duplicate effort continuing the
>>drawn out dual TV transition.
>>
>>And yet they give every impression of wanting to continue in this
>>fashion, so I assume that is what they choose for some
>>reason.  If all
>>they wanted was must carry rights on cable and satellite then
>>it seems
>>they would support a faster transition, even if they didn't believe
>>anyone was yet watching it digitally.
>>
>>I can offer no good explanation for this but it seems the
>>broadcasters
>>strategy is two pronged: Hang onto spectrum and hang onto must carry.
>>
>>
>
>Tom, what other recourse do broadcasers have?
>
>From their point of view, even if the numbers only add up to 15
>percent of their viewership, the *only* OTA worth preserving at
>this time is NTSC. They need that NTSC channel with or without
>the DTV channel. But the DTV channel is compulsory, so they must
>retain both frequency allocations.
>
>The odd thing about this transition is that walking into a store,
>no one would ever guess it has been taking place for the last 6
>years plus.
>
>We have recently seen a couple of cases where stations were willing
>to give up NTSC. In each case, IIRC, the rationale given was that
>they wouldn't lose much viewership anyway. The rationale was *NOT*
>that they would promote their DTV channel, and would save energy
>costs in the process.
>
>Imagine how successful UHF would have been, had UHF receivers
>continued to be only an external converter, costing upwards of
>$100, and only available if buyers made a concerted effort of
>finding anyone who would sell them. My guess is that cable would
>have taken hold a lot sooner than it did, under such
>circumstances. That's precisely how this DTV transition is
>turning out.
>
>Bert
>
>
>
But cable did take hold even with the UHF mandate and that era of TV is
over. The proposition now is for consumers to regress to days of yore
and reverse the decision that they made far in the past and go back to
antennas on the roof.

One difference is that they have to spend a lot of money. Even with the
mandate this is not going to work. Most people have made the decision
for cable or satellite as you say. Met two guys today in a meeting. Both
had Dish. Both had OTA DTV receivers built in. One had tried to hook it
up to his old antenna and failed the other had never tried.

The DTV transitions of the UK, Berlin and now other parts of Germany,
Italy and Japan all with different models are all very sucessful right
out of the box. Japan with HDTV, Italy with a subsidy, but they all do
have one thing in common. A decent modulation and no mandate.

Bob Miller


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