[opendtv] Re: F.C.C. Leader Seeks Tech Companies' Views on Net Neutrality
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 03:25:34 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
No Bert. Under Title II, however, ISPs were restricted from
competing with Google and Amazon.
That's a load of crap. There is no such restriction.
Bull. Read the regulation that Congress just revoked.
Complete nonsense. YOU quote me where anyone was preventing Verizon or Comcast
from building their own web sites, available on any ISP's broadband service.
Don't be absurd, Craig. If Verizon wants to build a search engine, go for it.
NO ONE is preventing that.
It requires ISPs to allow customers to opt out of data collection
if they want to use that ISP service. There is no such OPT OUT of
data collection if a consumer "chooses" to use the Google search
Are you just playing obtuse? It's easy to "opt out" of ANY web site you don't
like. It's not nearly as easy to "opt out" of your monopolistic broadband
provider. No one is preventing anyone from competing online, Craig. You're
simply being a drama queen.
I can't believe you wrote this crap. I was simply pointing out the
fact that Google and Amazon received favored treatment relative to
ISPs.
Totally false. Verizon can compete precisely as Google or Amazon do, when
offering the type of services that Google and Amazon offer. It is only when
Verizon is selling its locally-monopolistic telecom service that it has to obey
neutrality and privacy rights. Earth to Craig: Amazon and Google DO NOT PROVIDE
any form of locally-monopolistic service, or for that matter, any essential
service. That's why those special rules don't apply to them.
Learn how to use your web browser, Craig. Quit the sensationalistic hype,
please.
Now, this is your next exercise: How is it that people managed to
bypass AOL, and make them see the light?
THE INTERNET.
Again your cluelessness. AOL was an ISP, correct? Had AOL existed TODAY, as a
broadband ISP, it may well have been the ONLY choice of ISP, for a huge number
of people. They had a walled garden, for their own benefit, and subscribers
would have had no choice but to use it. Just like subscribers had been
accustomed of doing with their MVPD service. It was the walled garden culture
that you seem so fond of.
Luckily, AOL existed as an ISP when ISPs were reached **by the neutral
telephone**. That's what made it possible for people to take matters in their
own hands so easily. Title II telephone lines. They are what got people used to
the idea that the Internet was neutral. Not AOL. Not MVPDs. Not some birth
right. And you want to throw all that out?
Think, Craig.
Bert
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