[opendtv] Re: F.C.C. Leader Seeks Tech Companies' Views on Net Neutrality
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 02:03:02 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
You aren't very savvy with use of the Internet, Craig? Are you
restricted to just Google and Amazon? That's strange, I'm not.
No Bert. Under Title II, however, ISPs were restricted from competing
with Google and Amazon.
That's a load of crap. There is no such restriction. The ISP/MVPDs are
perfectly capable of building their own web sites, and making them available
for anyone of access, on any ISP including their own. Yes, if the content is
not their own, these MVPD/ISPs have to make agreements with the content owners,
but we have seen time and again that this is doable.
You simply are not well versed in web browsing, Craig, or these things would
have been obvious to you. Multiple web sites, for pay or ad-supported, are
available to anyone, as long as the local ISP remains neutral. I can't believe
you only use Amazon and Google.
It was not my choice to regulate ISPs under Title II.
It *was* your choice to subject yourself loyally to a walled garden
monopolistic service for decades. And then you whine about the fact that
monopolies behave like monopolies. In all these years, no one had ever
explained this to you?
But yes, the culture of the Internet was created early on. This
was NOT because of its use by government and education, but rather
by the attempts of companies like AOL and Time Warner to create
REAL WALLED GARDENS to control the applications that the Internet
enabled.
Well, hallelujah, Craig! You did finally get that AOL was attempting to keep
things walled up, and that the people demanded neutrality instead. For some
reason, even this was a subject to arguments from you, in the past.
Now, this is your next exercise: How is it that people managed to bypass AOL,
and make them see the light? Do you really think this happened by accident? Do
you really think that had the telephone service been non-neutral, i.e. a
telephone service operating like an MVPD, that people would have had a choice?
Do you really think that Internet neutrality was something mandated by a
supernatural power, instilled upon us at birth? Or did the Internet neutrality
concept **DEPEND ON** the existence of Title II telephone service?
Who complained?
Those nasty telcos, protected by Title II common carrier regulation.
Exactly! But we, the people, HAD that neutrality, on telephone lines. So we,
the people, BYPASSED those ISPs who wanted to wall up the Internet. At the
time, this was possible, for **any** household to do.
And now, Craig, you are trying to tell us that these same special interests
will play all nice and "promise" to be neutral, after the mandate is revoked?
You can't be that naïve/obtuse. It seems Pai wants to shirk this FCC
responsibility, and load it onto the FTC, even though the FTC says hell no.
We'll see how that goes.
Why should one have to belabor these points ad infinitum?
Bert
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