> > On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:50 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > I know I've said this before, but I'll emphasize it now. The real difference > is UNWALLED OPTIONS. Where in the past, you had whatever bundles and tiers > *a* local monopoly offered, now you have bundles and tiers from a huge > (potential) assortment of service providers, in every location. That's a huge > difference. I think we might be getting somewhere. It looks like the problem may be how Bert and I are defining "walled," or "unwalled." For years Bert has called the MVPD bundles walled gardens. Now he is telling us that a VMVPD operating via the Internet is UNWALLED, while a virtually identical service offered via cable or satellite is WALLED. I have consistently used the term walled garden to refer to any services that requires a subscription (paid), especially as it relates to placing exclusive content behind a pay wall to help sell the service. And Bert also uses the term walled garden to refer to services that require hardware from a single manufacturer - I particular he has criticized Apple's iTunes and App Stores in this regard. So some of our disagreements result from the application of this term. I agree with Bert that the Internet is beginning to offer real competition to the traditional facilities based MVPDs. Geography is no longer a gatekeeping pre-requisite. It is worth noting, that these traditional services honor the geographic boundaries that define the market based broadcast system we have in the U.S. Thus a cable system must offer the local broadcast affiliates - they cannot import the same content from distant markets. The DBS systems offered the east and west coast network feeds to subscribers who could prove they did not get good reception of broadcast signals. Now the DBS systems mimic the cable companies, offering local stations based on the geo-location of the receiver. The difference is that DBS customers are not required to buy the local stations, while cable customers are. The Internet provides the ability to create a service that is not bound by geography, in fact there can be many services offering the same content. At the same time we hear Les Moonves telling us that CBS does not care how we watch their programs - a viewer can choose the local broadcaster, CBS.com and various CBS apps, Hulu or Hulu Plus, or CBS All access. Apparently protecting local broadcast affiliates is no longer a necessity. Clearly Bert is right about the potential for the Internet to provide meaningful competition to the facilities based systems that are still stuck with subscribers who must take the bundles offered. Systems that still offer analog service cannot sell individual channels or mini bundles. Digital Cable and DBS services can, but continue to play the "big bundle game." But the ability to offer more options via the Internet still depends on the willingness of the content owners to license their shows without the restrictions they have traditionally imposed on the facilities based services. It appears that the content owners, at least CBS and Disney, are starting to allow new services delivered via the Internet to offer new kinds of bundles. So while these new services are still walled gardens by my definition, Bert sees them as being unwalled. We agree in the sense of the new non-geographic competition. > > For example, to stay within the MVPD model you seem to cherish, do you have a > choice of getting Comcast TVE service where you live, Craig? No? Why not? Why > should Comcast be so polite as to not offer its Internet-based TV service in > Cox territory? That's silly anymore, and consequently, **it is bound to > change**. It is certainly possible. It is also possible that we will wind up less competition, as the remaining MSOs consolidate into 2-3 companies (e.g. The Comcast/Time Warner merger). There is also the question of local franchise agreements. Local governments may have a say in this too. Los Angeles tried to make the DBS systems pay franchise fees. They may not take kindly to Comcast competing with Cox Cable in Gainesville. > Not again with "not going to happen." The price being asked by Sling TV only > tells me that the other channels are asking next to nothing, and that this > Sling TV service amounts to ESPN direct to consumer with very tiny extra > bennies. You can be sure that every channel in the Sling bundle is being compensated at least as well as they are by the the other MVPD services. It might be fair to say that Sling is heavy with Disney content (which includes ESPN), but it does not mean this is ESPN Direct. You can't have it both ways Bert. You keep telling us that people are cutting the cord to avoid paying for sports. I think it is ludicrous to suggest that only people who want ESPN will subscribe to Sling. The issue is paying for the channels "you" want. Sling pares down the core bundle and let's you choose from mini bundles that better suit you tastes - but you will still pay for channels you don't want. sPN is in the core bundle because it helps sell the bundle. > ESPN could play that game on its own too, maybe adding more regional sports, > college sports, high school, what have you, or even non-sports content. They > NO LONGER need to worry about getting into some popular (and lucrative) > locally-monopolistic "bundle." They can even remain in the Sling TV bundle, > not to mention others, while offering their own service, so what? Not gonna happen. They need to be in as many bundles as possible, and they have the market power to get away with it. > Can't be true, Craig. Otherwise, they wouldn't have been described as new. > Perhaps you couldn't get HBO with as slimmed down a "basic" tier as they are > offering now, is my bet. Perhaps HBO was not available with that basic-basic, > never advertised tier, and now it is. It has always been a separate premium tier that could be purchased with basic cable. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.