You can get an 8/16-VSB exciter on a PCI form factor (not suitable for broadcast due to timing accuracy) for about $3,250, new. DVEO has one (www.computermodules.com) as well as this one from Dektec http://www.dektec.com/Products/DTA-115/index.asp Or, if you want broadcast quality, you could try this http://www.teamcast.com/en/maj-e/c2a2i14383/products/modulators/8-vsb-modula tor.htm from TeamCast. It goes for about $7,000. They only OEM, but I could get one for you. And, knowing what I know about you, Cliff, you really do need one in your basement lab. And, you could get along without an encoder. Just capture some streams and play them back with either a DVEO or Dektec DVB-ASI card. John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Cliff Benham Enviado el: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:03 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Digital vs. Analog Quality Manfredi, Albert E wrote: It was about explaining that if you use a > CECB to decode a TV signal, as opposed to watching the NTSC broadcast, > over the composite interface, you should notice much better color > resolution than from the NTSC broadcast. Because the CECB creates the > composite signal from the 4:2:0 digital, and is not limited to the ~40 > lines in practical NTSC broadcasting. It is ONLY limited to the 120 > lines of NTSC at its practical best. Yep, that was my point exactly. That is what I see with the CECBs when comparing their S- and NTSC baseband outputs to OTA NTSC. I can't quantify *how much* better the CECB is without running tests I can no longer make. If I still had access to the Harmonic MV50 encoder and 8VSB exciter I'd hook it all up and send the list photos of the waveforms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.