Tom Barry wrote: >John Shutt wrote: > >>For that matter, are cheap OTA STB's available in the Korean market? > > > > > > Where do you think most of our STBs have been coming from? Where do you > > think the companies that Bob Miller has been working with trying to get a > > prototype that worked as well as the LG 'cold fusion' STB? > >Certainly. But what are Koreans buying for their own market? Do they >also have the same problems or are there different cheap Korean-only >ATSC boxes that work well enough? Or newer gen boxes that are only sold >in Korea for instance. > >Are Koreans happy with ATSC? > >- Tom > > Korean broadcasters were never happy with ATSC. Did their own testing and protested 8-VSB for eight years. I know that two of them contacted me for a number of years hoping for help in getting their government to back off 8-VSB. It thought they would just like Taiwan did. The Korean public? I don't know and don't know how to find out. I have a nephew working in Seoul. I will send him an email. Bob Miller > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >>>Well, if most stations are not not still at low power then that leaves >>>only the 2nd half of the CEA's reason for no OTA STB's. That is, there >>>is only 11% (any x% low number) of TV's using OTA anyway and thus the >>>CEA members have little interest in bothering with it. >>> >>>It is not easy to argue with that one. And there is also no particular >>>reason to believe it will get any better in the future. However 11% of >>>all TV's still makes a fairly large number, too large to be sneezed at. >>> >>> >>11% of 102 million television households is still 11 million TVHH. In all >>of Australia there are about 12 million TVHH. Not OTA only households, >>total TVHHs. >> >>Why can Australia have over 86 different models of HD and SD STBs from 26 >>manufacturers <http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=18> in such a >>small market? Because boxes designed for Europe can easily and cheaply be >>adapted to 7 MHz channels. If Australia had an entirely unique modulation >>and transport stream method, chances are they would not have nearly the >>number of choices that they do now. >> >> >> >> >>>Moving on to conspiracy theories, it would also be interesting to know >>>if any pressure is being brought on the CE companies by cable or >>>satellite to stay out of the OTA STB market. >>> >>> >>No such pressure is required. As long as CE maker's manufacturing capacity >>is being filled with DBS boxes, Digital Cable boxes, and European/Oceania >>DVB-T boxes, why even bother making ATSC STBs with still unproven >>technology, high return rates, and low shelf life? >> >> >> >> >>>For that matter, are cheap OTA STB's available in the Korean market? >>> >>> >>Where do you think most of our STBs have been coming from? Where do you >>think the companies that Bob Miller has been working with trying to get a >>prototype that worked as well as the LG 'cold fusion' STB? >> >>John >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.