[opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American System
- From: "nat ostroff" <nostroff@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:17:28 -0500
Congressional sources have been informed but seem uninterested!! Imagine
THAT!
Nat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American
System
> I think you are saying broadcasters no longer dare competing (or
> appearing to compete) with the alternate distribution channels that are
> slowly squeezing them out and having their lunch. If that's the case
> then I guess it is already too late for them.
>
> However it might be nice if some Congressman noticed your post and
> forced names to be named since that sort of behavior is anti-competitive
> and also greatly delays the eventual spectrum auction that would kick
> start this whole process once again (and garner billions for the US
> Government).
>
> - Tom
>
>
> nat ostroff wrote:
> > Here is something to contemplate:
> >
> > When a broadcast group (to remain unnamed) produced a 30 second spot to
> > promote their over the air DTV signals and HD a cable company (to be
> > unnamed) responded by terminating $2,000,000 worth of advertising. The
> > reason? The broadcast stations were competing with the cable company!
Now,
> > given that kind of leverage can broadcast stations really promote their
over
> > the air, non revenue producing, DTV signals? This is not a fable! It
really
> > happened!
> >
> > Nat Ostroff
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Albert Manfredi" <bert22306@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:16 PM
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the
American
> > System
> >
> >
> >
> >>Tom Barry wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I'm simply saying that we have ATSC, we have "miracle
> >>>>chips" that finally work, so why aren't broadcasters at
> >>>>very least pushing to get these improved products out
> >>>>to the public?
> >>>
> >>>Because broadcasters do not sell CE products. CE
> >>>companies do.
> >>
> >>Tom, do you really think that cable and DBS companies would be equally
> >>uninterested and uninvolved in the existence, or lack thereof, of
> >
> > interface
> >
> >>boxes to their media? Or telephone companies?
> >>
> >>Do you really think that auto companies would think of marketing an
> >>automobile without knowing if the tire companies had adequate tires for
> >
> > it?
> >
> >>Just sort of leave that up to chance? Hey, we aren't tire companies, we
> >>can't be held responsible for that minor detail?
> >>
> >>Since we indulge in conspiracy theories so readily on here, why isn't
the
> >>reason much more likely to be what Craig has often advocated? That it is
> >
> > to
> >
> >>the advantage of the broadcasters that OTA work poorly, so they are
> >>"guaranteed" access to umbillical media. And that their OTA plants are
> >
> > only
> >
> >>there to meet a bureaucratic requirement for the rights to the other
> >
> > media?
> >
> >>So let's not push for the corrected products to reach consumers. Let the
> >>ancient designs, expensive and inferior in performance, persist, so we
can
> >>used our same old tired song from 1999 to get access to the other media.
> >>
> >>I can't begin to understand why last weekend, in late January of 2006,
the
> >>best box I could buy in any store was a design that is more primitive
than
> >>what the CRC tested, and submitted in a report, on 4 April 2002. This is
a
> >>completely preposterous, and frustrating, state of affairs.
> >>
> >>For that matter, I also can't understand why the majority of stations
> >
> > can't
> >
> >>go to the tiny effort it must take to keep their DTT clocks half-way on
> >>time. I don't even mean within seconds, but is a couple of minutes, at
> >>least, asking too much? Is this evidence of "who the heck cares," or
what?
> >>
> >>
> >>>And the CE companies obviously do not believe those
> >>>ATSC products exist that can be profitably sold at this time.
> >>
> >>I laughed out loud today when, in a radio newscast, I heard that some
> >
> > people
> >
> >>were going to be "forced" to watch the Superbowl in SD. Know why?
Because
> >>many cable companies don't carry ABC in HD. Imagine that. Hey, how many
> >>spots have we seen where ABC explains to the viewers how to get access
to
> >>their OTA HD feed? Must be that cable is the only way to get ABC, or for
> >>sure we would have heard otherwise, right?
> >>
> >>
> >>>They may exist on paper or on one-off demos
> >>
> >>They exist on more than paper. Yet, we keep hearing a retelling of
events
> >>from 1999, as if in the interim, nothing had happened. The excuse given
> >
> > for
> >
> >>my having to buy a CE product some three to four years obsolete is that
> >>seven years ago, some comparison test looked bad for ATSC. How
> >
> > illuminating.
> >
> >>How many times have we heard broadcasters referring, in passing, to the
> >
> > "30
> >
> >>foot mast requirement" for ATSC reception, as if that were fact? Even
with
> >>my obsolete STBs it's not fact. But hey, why not make a bad situation
even
> >>worse?
> >>
> >>Bert
> >>
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