[opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American System

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:18:02 -0500


Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
I'm simply saying that we have ATSC, we have "miracle
 > chips" that finally work, so why aren't broadcasters at very least
 > pushing to get these improved products out to the public?

Because broadcasters do not sell CE products.  CE companies do.  And the 
CE companies obviously do not believe those ATSC products exist that can 
be profitably sold at this time.

They may exist on paper or on one-off demos but they obviously do not 
exist as consumer products.  Maybe integrated TV's will eventually do 
the job but there is NO indication of a profitable market for standalone 
ATSC STB's.  I don't expect this to change in the next year or two.

- Tom

> John Shutt wrote:
> 
> 
>>As it turned out, the problems weren't so easily
>>fixed, and we probably would have been further ahead
>>in the transition if the Sinclair petition were
>>adopted back in 1999-2000.
> 
> 
> You may be right, but "as it turns out," the fix was in fact devised
> several years ago, and for whatever set of reasons, it's still not
> available on store shelves *in OTA-only boxes*.
> 
> Where are the 4th gen Micronas OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs?
> 
> Where are the 5th gen LG OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs? (They continue to
> offer quite happily only 3rd gen devices or OTA.)
> 
> Where are the STMicroelectronics OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs?
> 
> Where are the Samsung Gemini chip OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs?
> 
> Where is the outrage from broadcasters that these products are being
> held in some secret vault?
> 
> As to "the rest of the world," we have seen at least two obvious
> examples of solutions that are global. And clearly, as long as demods
> are still provided as separate chips, this will be the case for
> virtually *any* DTT product out there. Offer something in DVB-T, you can
> offer the same box in ATSC. So that old song just doesn't ring true
> anymore.
> 
> To an outsider like me, this sounds like excuses for doing nothing. To
> an outsider like me, mention of DVB-T is a smokescreen. I'm not even
> saying that in many scenarios, DVB-T wouldn't be "better." It very
> likely could be. I'm simply saying that we have ATSC, we have "miracle
> chips" that finally work, so why aren't broadcasters at very least
> pushing to get these improved products out to the public? You can keep
> harping about DVB-T at the same time.
> 
> Bert
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