[opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American System
- From: William Smith <wsmith@xxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:22:53 -0500
replace know with knows
William Smith wrote:
> Nat all I can say is that we (Ask Mark He know who) agreed firmly with
> your position as did APTS...
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> NAB should be National Association of B Sers..
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> nat ostroff wrote:
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>>Well well well, Was it not the NAB backed by MSTV that proclaimed "US
>>Broadcasters have little or no interest in mobile reception of DTV"? We at
>>Sinclair still bear the scars of trying to alter THAT mentality. So, why is
>>the Broadcast industry STILL relying on the NAB for leadership? Is it an
>>industrry wide death wish? Recently I was told by a senior member of ATSC
>>that Sinclair should organize a broadcaster group to speak out at the ATSC
>>for change. Frankly, we have been there and done that. How about someone
>>else rising to the occasion? We would certainly support such an effort. Best
>>to be wearing body armour however.
>>
>>
>>Nat Ostroff
>>Sinclair Broadcast Group
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "William Smith" <wsmith@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:57 PM
>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American
>>System
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>>>The first step to solving the problem is admitting you have one..
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>>>The old model doesn't work anymore....and the industry is on life
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>>support...
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>>><climbing soapbox>
>>>
>>>In my opinion the only real hope is to take control of the converging
>>>technologies...you cannot rely on 8-VSB to reach the public at large...
>>>
>>>You are not in the broadcast business anymore you are in the content
>>>distribution business..
>>>
>>>The transmitter is your STL to everything ..
>>>
>>>1. Run one SD MPEG-2 stream in ATSC to make the FCC happy...
>>>
>>>2. Add datacasting support for files and video streams using advanced
>>>codecs.
>>>
>>>3. Make the systems technology agnostic using IP as the glue.. to help
>>>stave off being bypassed..
>>>
>>>4.Gateway the IP traffic to station owned local WI Max and WIfi hot
>>>spots to get your content to the public.
>>>
>>>5.Educate people on how to get your services by every means you can
>>>think off including providing datacast reception software for free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Have you ever considered how far a WiFi hot spot might reach from the
>>>top of your tower??
>>>
>>>Since The industry was so short sighted, and refused to think outside
>>>the box by staying with 8-VSB we are now in the fight for our very
>>>survival..
>>>
>>><Climbing down>
>>>
>>>We are working a pilot now based on the above... currently targeting a
>>>limited audience.. Steps 1,2, and 3 are done.. working on 4 now...
>>>
>>>Otherwise..
>>>Better start saving money to buy the spectrum when its auctioned
>>>off....so you can switch your DTV plant to COFDM...and start selling DVB
>>>based set top boxes...
>>>
>>>Crosley did it back in the 20's ... He wanted to sell radios so he built
>>>WLW.. and sold both spots and radios...
>>>
>>>William
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>>>Mark Aitken (Work @ Home) wrote:
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>>>
>>>>OK Doctor...you have one chance in the operating room. You have but one
>>>>choice, because this is NOT elective surgery. It will be a long a long
>>>>one...What, my esteemed colleague, is the course of action?
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "William Smith" <wsmith@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:22 PM
>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the
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>>American
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>>>>System
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>>>>>Bert,
>>>>>
>>>>>The lost opportunity costs are beyond calculation..look at Qualcomm's
>>>>>service ... that should have been broadcasters..as it stands now its
>>>>>only a matter of time before one of two things happen.. Broadcasters
>>>>>wake up and fix this mess .. or the OTA ATSC video service will die a
>>>>>quick death (10-15 years) and the FCC will auction more spectrum to
>>>>>allow others to pick at the broadcasters carcass...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>William
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nick Kocsis wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>Portability and mobility trumps any amount of money if
>>>>>>>the goal is to use spectrum in a manner that serves the
>>>>>>>public and not the politicians that get all those
>>>>>>>juicy trips and dinners paid for by the lobbyists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess my point was that it seemed fairly clear that the issues were
>>>>>>NOT entirely technical. There were apparently other considerations
>>>>>>there, including possible development work done in country as a result
>>>>>>of the choice. This is entirely commonplace in this sort of
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>>negotiation.
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>>>>>>Not to mention the 300M Euro loan, which I doubt the ATSC so far has
>>>>>>matched (but I don't know this for a fact).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The technical tradeoffs are debatable ad nauseam. Brazil is a
>>>>>>geographically enormous country. Certainly, anyone with the guts to do
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>>a
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>>>>>>long range reception comparison test between the three standards could
>>>>>>make the case that a scheme optimized for long range, at equal
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>>bandwidth
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>>>>>>and power, would be beneficial to such a huge country. Just a point to
>>>>>>consider, among many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Obviously, choosing a COFDM scheme would not be a mistake. However, I
>>>>>>don't think the mea culpa attitude about all related to ATSC or the US
>>>>>>govt is valid either. The price of ATSC boxes, being HD especially, is
>>>>>>simply not going to be a valid argument anymore. The cost/price
>>>>>>differential is inconsequential.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bert
>>>>>>
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