"always during touchdowns" sounds linteresting, Stephen. Do these problems ALWAYS show up during fast-moving content? Are there stations with fast-moving images that don't freeze up? Does it happen during broadcasts of soccer (metric football)? :-) John Willkie _____ De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Stephen W. Long Enviado el: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:41 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Demand for free DTV rising in Australia I bought an Acurian, it does not solve the large echo problem in my neighborhood. My most current Westinghouse flat panel with built in ATSC tuner is only slightly better. Some channels continue to freeze up, and always during touchdowns for football games. It is so tiresome, that I just use my satellite/Tivo instead. If all politics is local, then I will always judge ATSC by reception in my house, less than 20 miles from all of the DC transmitters. 8VSB does not work as well as the analog service it is supposed to to replace. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barry Wilkins Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:36 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Demand for free DTV rising in Australia Quite right Bert, I haven't asked John why he has not tried more than a second generation ATSC receiver so here goes. John - why haven't you? And to the others who have, has it made a significant difference? Can you now cruise along with perfecto reception of ATSC in a built up area? Does the latest ATSC receiver still work until you shut it in a transmitter cabinet? (Joke) Yes, I understand there has been improvement. Time will tell and not much of that left. Regards Barry On 6/25/07, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Barry Wilkins wrote: > I did find it odd that you did not want to see the > "infamous" Bob Millar mobile COFDM demo. I reflect > on this in a comparative way. I find it really nuts that this is being made into some sort of issue. More to the point, did you ask John Shutt whether he has yet tried anything more recent than a 2nd gen ATSC receiver, on which to base his comments on 8-VSB reception? And if he did, when he did? As technically obsolete as my 3rd gen Accurian and Digital Stream boxes are, and already were in 2005, they were very straightforward to set up and get working. With indoor or outdoor antennas. If you read the comments of other people who bought them, they were better than any of the STB competition, when they were first introduced. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.