[opendtv] Re: Delay

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:56:38 -0800

Those who are ignorant of the past are condemned to repeat it.  Nothing new
to you, right, Bob?

The "must-carry" regulations of which you allude were first passed in
1969-1971, involving KFMB-TV and what is now Time-Warner Cable and Cox Cable
in San Diego.  Have you ever read the documents in these cases?

I have.

The FCC passed it, thence it went to the supreme court, which at the time
assented.  Then, they passed another aspect, the cablers appealed, and
ultimately lost again.

Cable penetration in the U.S. in 1971 was less than 10%, and CABLE ONLY
CARRIED BROADCAST STATIONS.

Ultimately, Ted Turner filed a petition to overturn must-carry as
unconstitutional in 1980.  After EIGHT years of FCC inaction -- no doubt due
to concern on the FCC's part of what a grant would do to the TV marketplace
that they are supposed to regulate -- Turner's attorney, former FCC Chairman
(and a strong hater of the TV networks) Timothy Ferris got the Court of
Appeals to rule in his favor, and thence the Supremes.

Congress re-enacted a constitutional replacement in 1992.  George Bush 41
vetoed it.  For the only time in his presidency, 2/3 of the House and Senate
voted to overturn the veto.

The sad fact, apparently, is that none of the people in this case deferred
to your poisoned mind.

I will leave any reply to your uninformed musings to others; I don't argue
with children.

John Willkie



> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bob Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:12 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Delay
> 
> On 12/12/06, Steve Wilson <stevenjwilson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Regarding OTA - "It's just not relevant anymore for most consumers. "
> > Wasn't it Motorola and (?) who were the big proponents of 8VSB?  Its in
> > their best interest to delay OTA HDTV broadcast.  The last thing they
> > need is for consumer to figure out they can get it OTA for free.
> >
> > I hear we have finally figured out how to make tuners/demodulators that
> > resolve these multipath issues - but how makes them and where are they?
> > It seems like buying an HDTV tuner for a PC, for example, is a roll of
> > the dice.
> >
> > I am not an expert in RF signalling, but it seems to me the decision was
> > based, at least in great part, on politics - not on what broadcasters
> > wanted. How much influence would broadcasters have over a new cable
> > standard?
> >
> >
> Broadcasters had enough influence to get must carry laws past.
> Basically they got the government to force cable to carry their
> signals when cable became too big a threat.
> 
> They have not resolved those multipath issues with better 8-VSB
> receivers yet. Even the best receiver I have seen, the LG prototype
> never produced so far, was easy to defeat by walking in front of the
> antenna or standing in a particular position on either side of it.
> 
> And there is no solution for dynamic multipath except for the promise of
> A-VSB.
> 
> There are few manufacturers of any STBs for 8-VSB because correctly
> manufacturers see little market for them. Most manufacturers of STBs
> that you see producing for other countries have never produced an
> 8-VSB receiver and never will. If you ask them why their first answer
> will be laughter.
> 
> Bob Miller
> 
> 
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