I don't disagree with most of what you have said. The paranoid entertainment industry is to blame on this. They knew the problem existed prior to the advent of Digital Television. Why did they not get the appropriate standard approved then? But the problem is not HDMI it is HDCP. HDMI is a simple problem for the consumer. In fact when I bought my HR10-250 DVR last year the appropriate cable were provided. The real problem is the Monitor and the fact it was not HDCP compliant. So we should be discussing HDCP not HDMI. Pat -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Aitken Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:30 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Defining Visions: They've Done It To Us Again. . .???!!! OK. So let me get this straight. IF (that in my mind is a BIG IF) HD-DVD takes off, are the 10M digital set owners expected to spend $400-500 to=20 be able to display the HDTV (on top of the cost of the HD-DVD player)?=20 And...if one CAN get around this HDMI interface, why bother with=20 providing it as the sole output? Why not provide DVI in the first place? Are consumers NOT important in the world of CE products? What is most=20 important? Hollywood? The fact that it is "fixable" is precisely the point! Someone will break the system, no doubt, so why force a pile of crap on the majority to=20 plug a hole that will ALWAYS exist and be drilled by those that will=20 wreak havoc anyway? Patrick, not personally aimed at you, just trying to make a point. I=20 believe it is too heavy of a burden to expect from consumers, and will=20 keep the elephant from flying anyway... Joy, Patrick wrote: >The problem is fixable, but it will cost some money on part of the owner >of a legacy video display. I currently have a monitor that would have >the HDCP problem, but I was able to get around it and not loose my >investment. There are transcoder devices such as the DTrovision DC-DA1 >can fix this situation.=3D20 > >http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/video/dcda1.asp > >The unit does a DVI-D to VGA conversion and is HDCP compliant. Since >DVI-D and HDMI is much the same electrical standard, only the connectors >are different. All one needs is a HDMI to DVI-D cable to the transcoder >and then on to VGA or RGB. The transcoder Takes care of the HDCP part >and the STB or HD-DVD player sees a legal device. =3D20 > >Pat=3D20 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >On Behalf Of Mark Aitken >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:03 PM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Defining Visions: They've Done It To Us Again. . >.???!!! > >http://www.ultimateavmag.com/joelbrinkley/805jb/index.html > >The article starts out... > >Here's a piece of really bad news for all 10 million of us who own=3D20 >digital television sets that are more than six months old. You won't be=3D20 >able to watch the new high-definition DVDs in high definition unless you > >buy a new TV. Whose to blame for this? Hollywood, of course. > >Toshiba, the primary backer of HD DVD, one of the two competing=3D20 >high-definition formats, let it slip during road shows in Europe and the > >United States last month that the one and only high-definition output=3D20 >from its players will be HDMI, the digital input of choice on most new=3D20 >digital TVs. As recently as a year ago, DVI, not HDMI, was the input of=3D20 >choice, but even TVs with that older and still copy-protected input will > >not be able to watch HD DVDs in high definition. > >... (go to article for more...) ... >http://www.ultimateavmag.com/joelbrinkley/805jb/index.html > > >My first questions are... Will HD-DVD (or BlueRay for that matter) ever=3D20 >make it? Will there me the financial incentive to move towards it? Can=3D20 >Mr./Mrs./Ms. "Average American" see the difference? > >Then I ask... 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