[opendtv] Re: DTV TRANSITION:

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:50:04 -0800

You are a blithering, ignorant idiot.  The FCC forces them to transmit local
television stations -- even the digital ones they carry -- in clearQAM.
Market forces and costs induce them to transmit extended basic in the clear.

John Willkie

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De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
nombre de Albert Manfredi
Enviado el: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:48 PM
Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: [opendtv] Re: DTV TRANSITION:


John Shutt wrote:
 
> My Comcast expanded basic service currently has
> 61 analog and 34 ClearQAM services.  The ClearQAMs
> include all of the OTA broadcaster's ATSC services
> (in HD if available from the broadcaster,) as well
> as digital duplicates of analog PEG services. I'm
> not a subscriber to digital cable or HD cable, so
> I can't say how many total channels there are with
> those services, and am too lazy to look it up.
> Our PBS station has all four of our multiplex
> channels on this ClearQAM tier, as part of the
> nationwide carriage agreement struck between PBS
> (or was it APTS?) and the NCTA.
 
Granted all that. Cable companies here too operate that way, so that people
who don't subscribe to the digital tier, or don't pay extra for HD channels,
can still receive HD.
 
The point I'm making is that there is nothing that forces cable companies to
operate that way. They can decide, tomorrow, that they want to encrypt and
copy protect everything on their cable, and they are perfectly within their
rights to do so. They have nothing that forces them to transmit clearQAM.
 
> I have been told that the cable companies want to
> move people into ClearQAM and away from analog for
> expanded basic, then offer encrypted QAM for
> additional pay tiers and PPV.  In order to achieve
> this goal, all subscribers must have some sort of
> ClearQAM tuner, either built into their television
> sets, or in the form of a STB.
 
As an interim step at least, that makes a lot of sense. That's why I
wondered for many years why the cable companies were so opposed to agreeing
to a digital standard that third parties could design to.
 
You said in your original post:
 
> [CECB manufacturers] will modify their software code
> slightly, unlock the built-in ClearQAM potential,
> and start selling "expanded digital basic" STBs to
> counter the cable company's attempt to rent 3 or 4
> cable boxes per sub.
 
I responded exactly to that last phrase. "To counter ..."
 
If the cable companies WANT to rent 3 or 4 proprietary STBs, as opposed to
your idea above that cable companies prefer to make use of third party STBs
to their own advantage, then they only need to encrypt everything on their
system.
 
MVPD subscribers have shown that they will bend to the wishes of the MVPD
provider without a lot of fuss, in the US. That's how you get 85 percent of
the population hooked. And Craig has mentioned more than once what the
broadcasters "want" their viewers to do. Suggesting that every lemming out
there should bend to the wishes, and make the 85 percent figure a nice,
round, 100 percent.
 
> It seems to me that these CECB manufacturers are
> ready and able to fill this market niche, at the same
> price they currently charge for CECB only boxes, and
> it would take minimal retooling of their product.
> Indeed, perhaps as simple as a software change.
 
Yes, as long as the cable companies allow them to do so.
 
Bert
 
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