I'm not sure if I was meant to respond to this, but I'll note the following: - Yes, one of the antennas we tried was a 14-foot long model that filled the entire room. - I get good reception of both the VHF and UHF NYC-based analog stations with just rabbit ears on the TV. For a New Jersey station, I sometimes use a UHF loop. - For Bob's most-recent test, we used a UHF loop taped to the window. If I recall correctly, one of the cards nevertheless picked up WPIX-DT, which is on channel 12. - Yes, all of the NYC low-VHF stations are in UHF for DTT. WPIX-DT had a UHF channel, too, but, after the fall of the WTC, I think they wanted an adjacent channel for simplified transmission. TTFN, Mark Bill Hogan wrote: > In looking at the following news story it brings up some questions. As >BobMiller and Mark Schubin >have related in the testing in Mark's apartment in NY they mention that they >taped the antenna to >the window or placed it near the TV set. With the STUPID notion that the >FCCset in law >and the INDUSTRY allowed to happen stations could choose to stay on their >ANALOG >VHF frequency assignment instead of moving EVERYONE to UHF, as was done in >Europe. We can >never have a successful DTV off-air system with a mixture of VHF and UHF in >the same city. >What is the worst problem with 8-VSB? Yes it is multi path. And at what >frequency is multi path the >worst? Yes it is with the lowest frequency VHF channels. And there are >additional technical problems >with the LOW VHF channels that has be discussed before. BUT NO I suppose >that some stations >selected their low frequency VHF channels. CBS with many stations on Channel >2 has announced >they would wait for the second round of channel selections and pick another >channel. Tribune >also said they would select a frequency in the UHF band and not stay on >theirlow channel VHF >present assignment. > >Hey Mark you want to put a LOW VHF frequency directional antenna in your >living room? >Yes folks might be happy to install a small UHF TV band antenna on their >roof. Cheap and small. >How many want to put up a VHF antenna? > >Did any broadcaster reading this now on LOW band VHF select this channel for >their permanent assignment? >MARK: Did all the NY low band stations select a UHF channel so you do not >need a low band >VHF antenna in your apartment? > >But WAIT Bert will try to tell us this is NO problem. > >Regards, Bill Hogan > > > >DTV channel election advances[1] >Jun 17, 2005 8:00 AM, RF Update e-newsletter > > >The FCC last week advanced the process used to assign television >broadcastersto their permanent in-core DTV channel and create a Final DTV >Table of Allotments. > >On June 8, the Media Bureau released an order approving 25 Negotiated >ChannelArrangements (NCAs) and rejected 12 others. An NCA lets stations >within a market enter into an agreement to elect channels other than their >own, provided that every station potentially affected by the move is in >agreement. > >Working to meet a timeline established last summer by commission order, more >than 1700 television broadcasters filed their channel preference for final >DTV operations by February. Of those stations, 1628 chose to use their >existing NTSC or digital channel. Fifty chose to forego the first round in >the channel election process. Sixty-two stations participated in 37 NCAs >filed with the FCC. Stations that are approved will receive tentative >channeldesignations for the channels contained in the agreements; the >stations participating in the rejected NCAs reverted to their alternate >channel elections and were considered during general Round One conflict >analysis. > >Last week, the commission also sent about 155 letters to stations that >elected their NTSC channel for digital operation but an FCC engineering >analysis indicated that it would result in impermissible interference. The >stations have 60 days to inform the FCC how they will resolve the >interference conflict. > >The commission will complete Round One later this summer and commence Round >Two elections in the fall. > >For more information, visit www.fcc.gov[2]. > >--- Links --- > 1 > http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20050617/FCC-channel-election-20050617 > 2 http://www.fcc.gov > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.