[opendtv] Re: DTV Channel Assignments

  • From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:52:31 -0400

I'm not sure if I was meant to respond to this, but I'll note the following:

- Yes, one of the antennas we tried was a 14-foot long model that filled 
the entire room.
- I get good reception of both the VHF and UHF NYC-based analog stations 
with just rabbit ears on the TV.  For a New Jersey station, I sometimes 
use a UHF loop.
- For Bob's most-recent test, we used a UHF loop taped to the window.  
If I recall correctly, one of the cards nevertheless picked up WPIX-DT, 
which is on channel 12.
- Yes, all of the NYC low-VHF stations are in UHF for DTT.  WPIX-DT had 
a UHF channel, too, but, after the fall of the WTC, I think they wanted 
an adjacent channel for simplified transmission.

TTFN,
Mark


Bill Hogan wrote:

> In looking at the following news story it  brings up some questions.  As
>BobMiller and Mark Schubin 
>have related in the testing in Mark's apartment in NY they mention that they
>taped the antenna to
>the window or placed it near the TV set.  With the STUPID notion that the
>FCCset in law
>and the INDUSTRY allowed to happen  stations could choose to stay on their
>ANALOG
>VHF frequency assignment instead of moving EVERYONE to UHF, as was done in
>Europe. We can
>never have a successful DTV off-air system with a mixture of VHF and UHF in
>the same city.
>What is the worst problem with 8-VSB? Yes it is multi path.  And at what
>frequency is multi path the
>worst?  Yes it is with the lowest frequency VHF channels.  And there are
>additional technical problems
>with the LOW VHF channels that has be discussed before.  BUT NO I suppose
>that some stations
>selected their low frequency VHF channels. CBS with many stations on Channel
>2 has announced
>they would wait for the second round of channel selections and pick another
>channel. Tribune
>also said they would select a frequency in the UHF band and not stay on
>theirlow channel VHF
>present assignment.
>
>Hey Mark you want to put a LOW VHF frequency directional antenna in your
>living room?
>Yes folks might be happy to install a small UHF TV band antenna on their
>roof. Cheap and small.
>How many want to put up a VHF antenna?
>
>Did any broadcaster reading this now on LOW band VHF select this channel for
>their permanent assignment?
>MARK: Did all the NY low band stations select a UHF channel so you do not 
>need a low band
>VHF antenna in your apartment?
>
>But WAIT Bert will try to tell us this is NO problem.
>
>Regards, Bill Hogan
>
>
>
>DTV channel election advances[1] 
>Jun 17, 2005 8:00 AM, RF Update e-newsletter 
>
>
>The FCC last week advanced the process used to assign television
>broadcastersto their permanent in-core DTV channel and create a Final DTV
>Table of Allotments. 
>
>On June 8, the Media Bureau released an order approving 25 Negotiated
>ChannelArrangements (NCAs) and rejected 12 others. An NCA lets stations
>within a market enter into an agreement to elect channels other than their
>own, provided that every station potentially affected by the move is in
>agreement. 
>
>Working to meet a timeline established last summer by commission order, more
>than 1700 television broadcasters filed their channel preference for final
>DTV operations by February. Of those stations, 1628 chose to use their
>existing NTSC or digital channel. Fifty chose to forego the first round in
>the channel election process. Sixty-two stations participated in 37 NCAs
>filed with the FCC. Stations that are approved will receive tentative
>channeldesignations for the channels contained in the agreements; the
>stations participating in the rejected NCAs reverted to their alternate
>channel elections and were considered during general Round One conflict
>analysis. 
>
>Last week, the commission also sent about 155 letters to stations that
>elected their NTSC channel for digital operation but an FCC engineering
>analysis indicated that it would result in impermissible interference. The
>stations have 60 days to inform the FCC how they will resolve the
>interference conflict. 
>
>The commission will complete Round One later this summer and commence Round
>Two elections in the fall. 
>
>For more information, visit www.fcc.gov[2]. 
>
>--- Links ---
>   1 
> http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20050617/FCC-channel-election-20050617
>   2 http://www.fcc.gov
> 
> 
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