Yea but my leg hurt on that day and it doesn't anymore. Did they fix that too? Must've. The smoothing buffer has no effect on av sync. Adam adam_g@xxxxxxxxx On Mar 22, 2008, at 3:33 PM, "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I know of a station that, because their "cable partner" complained of their Scientific Atlanta encoders having "small buffers". The cable company had their vendor in the plant, the broadcasters had their encoder vendor in the plant, and they adjusted things until there were no lip-sync issues with the cable firm. I've looked at the transport stream. The audio is out of sync with the video, where it wasn't before. They have sb_leak_rate = 0 and sb_size = 0 (both apparently legal ATSC values, if you ignore that a buffer needs to have a size and needs to have a leak rate.) This is at the other end of the spectrum to "no effect", me thinks. John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Adam Goldberg Enviado el: Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:19 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: DTV Audio and video synchronization Explain to me how the SB is at all related to av sync. (STD is loosely associated) Adam adam_g@xxxxxxxxx On Mar 22, 2008, at 7:40 AM, Ron Economos <w6rz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes. Inother words, you can have a Transport Stream (ATSC or otherwise) that is fully T-STD compliant, yet wildly out of A/V synch. Ron Adam Goldberg wrote: Note that the smoothing buffer can be legally specified as having a sb_leak_rate of the maximum transport rate (19.39), which yields 'no effect' smoothing buffer. Adam Goldberg adam_g@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Economos Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:54 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: DTV Audio and video synchronization It does? Why? Ron John Willkie wrote: Also, the smoothing_buffer_descriptor (technically used as a program smoothing buffer descriptor in the ATSC world) also comes into play. John Willkie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.