[opendtv] Re: DTT tuner design
- From: "johnwillkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:17:14 -0700
In other words, what you can't get for free over the air, you can steal
using p2p.
I recently re-activated my 'cable tv' account in Tijuana. That is, I got
telephone and Internet from the telephone company. I don't do p2p; so it's
either over the air or DVDs or the Internet for me.
John Willkie
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De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
nombre de Tom Barry
Enviado el: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:22 AM
Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: [opendtv] Re: DTT tuner design
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> There is ONE stark difference. In the U.K there is support for a viable
> FTA platform by the government, the television industry and the public.
> There is no viable option for free TV here, unless you are willing to
> accept the limited content that is offered OTA. Apparently you are, but
> you are part of a dying breed of consumer. What is more to the point is
> that the next generation of TV viewers are much more likely to use the
> Internet for TV. My son does it all the time now, as do many other young
> people I work with.
I am personally willing to settle for only the limited content offered
(in most cities) OTA, supplemented by various Internet sources. But
even then as a cable broadband user I still find the cheap cable
lifeline unencrypted QAM service a better deal for those same stations,
just for the reliability.
- Tom
> At 3:28 PM -0400 7/5/07, Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
>
>> You seem to have to go down to 15" size LCDs to see 4:3 anymore, at
>> least at Best Buy. I think this is a new trend.
>
>
> They offer a 20" 4:3 panel on the web site. But I'm not sure how recent
> a trend this is. It's been happening with laptop computers for several
> years and for most LCD computer displays. The beauty of LCD is that you
> can cut up the large glass panels in any shape you want.
>
> The big problem with widescreen TVs at smaller sizes is the even smaller
> size of dominant 4:3 content or the need to distort the content to fill
> the screen. I strongly suspect that most consumers are buying 20" or
> larger LCD panels to get something at least as large as the old set they
> are replacing.
>
>>
>>> As for what people will use sets for integrated
>>> receivers for...
>>>
>>> The research suggests that most consumers are NOT using
>>> the DTV tuners...
>>
>>
>> But the research had no way of accounting for the newest small sets. My
>> thinking is that a fair percentage of them will become secondary sets in
>> households, so they could get a "higher than 15 percent" representation
>> in the OTA category. Of course, as I suggested years ago, the receivers
>> in these sets have to work very well for this to become true. It's
>> probably more important for these small sets to have good receivers than
>> it is for the big ones.
>
>
> I guess this goes back to the debate about the number of sets that are
> in use that are not connected to an umbilical service. Frankly, I cannot
> see that anything is changing here. If the consumer was already using a
> small set for off-air reception, then they may do the same with a new
> LCD panel. But I doubt that most consumers are trying to use antennas
> again.
>
> In fact, there is a significant difference with the new sets that makes
> it less likely that the internal tuners will be used. Most small CRT
> based TVs came with integrated antennas as well. I have not seen an LCD
> panel with an antenna. The chances are fairly good that reception might
> not work with an integrated antenna anyway.
>
> My daughter bought a 32" LCD set with integrated tuner. We can receive
> OTA broadcasts via a cheap radio shack antenna, but it must be placed in
> the window in her room to get sufficient signal margin for the reception
> to be stable. Back in the family room and kitchen the signal is simply
> too low to use an integrated antenna.
>
>>
>>> Perhaps this will change if the industry actually
>>> starts to promote OTA reception. That is, before they
>>> move all of their most valuable content to the internet
>>> and pay per view.
>>
>>
>> The Lovelace piece Mark Aitken posted indicates otherwise, in the UK at
>> least. I truly wonder whether there are as stark differences as you seem
>> to think between these markets. Even if we have many here that will pay
>> for the umbillical hookup, I wonder whether they are also willing to pay
>> per view on a regular basis. My bet is no. My bet is that these PPV
>> predictions are no more likely to be true than the ads showing teenagers
>> lying around in city traffic to watch their TV shows on their cell
>> phones.
>
>
> There is ONE stark difference. In the U.K there is support for a viable
> FTA platform by the government, the television industry and the public.
> There is no viable option for free TV here, unless you are willing to
> accept the limited content that is offered OTA. Apparently you are, but
> you are part of a dying breed of consumer. What is more to the point is
> that the next generation of TV viewers are much more likely to use the
> Internet for TV. My son does it all the time now, as do many other young
> people I work with.
>
> It is not a question of whether people are willing to pay for TV. That's
> a done deal. The question is whether people will continue to fork out
> $40 - $100 per month for an "all you can eat" service, even as they are
> spending another $25-100 per month to buy/rent movies. At some point it
> becomes more attractive to buy just the stuff you want, rather than
> paying through the nose for stuff you don't watch.
>
> This has already happened for me and many other consumers in the market
> for music. It is far easier, and now cheaper, to download just the stuff
> I want from services like iTunes. It's just a matter of time until the
> same will be true for TV.
>
> Regards
> Craig
>
> P.S. I played with an iPhone yesterday. I loved it an my wife couldn't
> imagine why anyone would want one. She is happy with a phone and an
> iPOD. She can't imagine what she would do with e-mail and the Internet
> on a mobile device. The kids get it and want it. I'm waiting for version
> 2.0 and hopefully another carrier than AT&T.
>
>
>
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