My last daughter just moved out to an apartment in Queens. She has a 2006 42" Philips Plasma and no cable. I convinced her to try OTA with a Radio Shack antenna. She has repositioned her antenna near the window 3 or 4 times and done scans. So far she has found 3, 5 and 6 NTSC channels but no digital ones. Another outlyer. Now we have three. Next February we will have a few more. Bob Miller On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM, John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Signal strength is the problem at Cliff's home. He has a rather serious > tower to hold his antenna, but it needs to be at least 120 feet higher to > clear the hill that is between him and Philly transmitters. Clearing the > hill doesn't necessarily mean he will clear the first subtractive Fresnel > zone (which is actually worse than the effect of the hill.) > > But, I'm not guessing; I've seen the profile graph. It's kind of rough to > tell someone that to receive signals well, he'll need to extend his tower > 120-140 feet, and then play with the receive antenna position. > > Think of the steel, think of the cable (and loss), think of climbing up and > down that tower, which would be close to 10 sections, or 200 feet. > > Cliff's situation is more difficult than Mark Schubin's. Both are outlyers. > > John Willkie > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En > nombre de Manfredi, Albert E > Enviado el: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:27 AM > Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Copps proposes more FCC action > > Cliff Benham wrote: > >> Tonight I counted the number of breakups and freezes that occurred >> during the 30 minute ABC network news program received OTA from >> WPVI-DT, Phildelphia: >> >> I stopped counting at 23. Several times the pertinant information >> being presented was lost due to the momentary failures of the ATSC >> transmission/reception system. > > I'm sure we've been over this already, Cliff. What leads you to believe > that the problem you have has anything to do with modulation? Do you > have signal strength and echo measurements at your location, to > determine what the problem is? > > I'll bet that echo is not a major issue where you are. My guess is > signal strength is your problem, and that everything is therefore a > matter of digital cliff. So what you're probably objecting to is digital > TV of any stripe. Yes? > > Bert > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.