The people on this group largely share the skill of being able to solve a problem. That involves first understanding what the problem is and THEN deciding upon a strategy, gathering the resources, using what is reasonably available, doing the work, and validating what you have done. You all do it every day and as second nature without thinking about it. This discussion, like many with regard to education, starts by arguing strategy and resources. A good educator instinctively takes the student's context and what they need or might be able to learn and then works with what they have much like you do. Our educational system, however, applies a method, and whatever resources legislatures have appropriated, and attempt to fit most learners into a similar black box. The best educators know that you have to clearly define your objectives, then work with what you have to solve the problem in the context of the learner. Just like you all do. The technology is not a solution nor is lack of it a significant hindrance to innovation. It is just another tool in the box. These days, it is so pervasive that the cost is not significant for most applications of technology. The same problems remain. What needs to be learned and how to best engage the learner to get it done? Tech has just given us more tools in the box. Leonard Caillouet Gainesville, FL -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:39 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Connected classrooms TLM wrote: > I don't pretend that this can happen with a mail-in get-your-degree > program. That is a suppliement and can add value. But I think you > have to admit that there is something there that cannot be replaced by > the Internet. Supplimented, Yes. Replaced, No. This is going beyond the mere Skype session in a classroom, but: No one claims that you can replace entirely the classroom experience. But then again, which classroom experience? That of the full-time resident student? That of the "townie"? That of the night school student/worker? These are already different experiences, differences which existed before the Internet. The Internet adds more variety. For that matter, I'll give you an added option: totally unstructured learning. Where the individual searches out the sources, searches out discussion forums, joins standards bodies, contributes to the creation of standards, and ends up supplementing his education that way. Would have been close to impossible to do before the Internet. Or certainly a lot more laborious. When I was going to school, our profs repeated many times that anything we learned there would be obsolete in just a few years. They were spot on. So the question is, how do you stay useful? Decades of evening courses? Maybe good for some, but there are much easier ways now, as long as you're self motivated. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.