At IBC I saw a few mpeg2 to avc transcoding demos, one was at 3.5 mbit/s transcoding to 2.1, If I remember correctly the others were also using simillar bitrates, and even a rather untrained eye such as mine could clearly see the difference. The AVC image of lower quality, with more clearly noticable blurring of the background and loss of contrast/detail in the objects in focus as well. Of course this is transcoding and not two seperate compression runs from a clean high quality source. Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McClenny" <jamcclenny@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:04 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Comparison of H.264 with MPEG-2 Not at all scientific, but looking at first generation SD Realtime encoders for H.264, 4 Mb/s MPEG-2 looks "about" the same as 2.5 Mb/s H.264. Yeah, I don't have a trained eye - I know.... The expectation is that the encoder compression will improve rapidly as they turn on more features once the software gets stable. "They" expect to be down to about 1.8 or 1.9 Mb/s for the same quality in the next 9 months. I think that is a litle aggressive. HD is harder and the early stuff we are seeing is at 10 Mb/s. Not bad, but not as good as the full bandwidth MPEG-2. Again, I am a middleware guy, so what do I know about video :). Doc McClenny ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.