Not at all scientific, but looking at first generation SD Realtime encoders for H.264, 4 Mb/s MPEG-2 looks "about" the same as 2.5 Mb/s H.264. Yeah, I don't have a trained eye - I know.... The expectation is that the encoder compression will improve rapidly as they turn on more features once the software gets stable. "They" expect to be down to about 1.8 or 1.9 Mb/s for the same quality in the next 9 months. I think that is a litle aggressive. HD is harder and the early stuff we are seeing is at 10 Mb/s. Not bad, but not as good as the full bandwidth MPEG-2. Again, I am a middleware guy, so what do I know about video :). Doc McClenny ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.