John Shutt wrote: > That's because in 1999 MSTV was promised that NxtWave had > "cracked the code for mobile and indoor reception." > (Yes, Bert, I know.) Know what? If you know, why still the hand wringing? ;) First off, every caveat mentioned in the article is true for any DTV reception anywhere. And in fact, I posted to the list exactly those same points made in the UK and in Australia, e.g. as instructions for converting multi-unit apartment buildings from analog to DTV central antenna systems. Secondly, what NxtWave did with their 2nd gen receiver showed obviously improved specs. As I said at the time, it seemed not improved enough, but a real difference anyway. Lagging echo tolerance went from 15 to 44 usec. Not bad, as a first step. Most importantly, though, and this is the reason why I'm still baffled by the hand wringing of those days, everyone on this list had been informed at the time, from Frank Eory, Al Limberg, and Doug McDonald, on what the 1st gen receivers of the day, and even 2nd gen receivers of ~2001 were NOT doing. Such as, 1st gen receivers used mostly real-only equalizers (did anyone believe that energy twisted into the imaginary axis does not affect energy remaining in the real axis?), not using anything but blind equalization. And not being clever about pre-echo at all, until 1st quarter of 2002. It was so obvious that matters were going to improve. And in fact they did. I'm not sure why then, and still now, people are dwelling on the fact that the first improvement didn't fix all the problems. I mean, are we supposed to be engineers, or what? Why the emotional outbursts that the original fixes weren't enough? As for me, my quadruple bowtie antenna is now safely ensconced in my fireplace, on the ground floor, happily picking up all the local channels (from 12 to 20 miles away) and usually between 2 and 4 of the Baltimore channels too (transmitters 46.6 miles away as the crow flies, both of Mark Aitken's stations are usually present at roll call). It does not get re-aimed ever. I don't see anything to complain about in that regard, would you? And this at 3.3 b/s/Hz. The big outdoor antenna is gone. True, I get less signal margin than before, but hey. If it comes in virtually glitch-free, even with people walking around, even withn aircraft flying overhead, that's all you need. And man, is it easy to upgrade my antenna now. My recommendation to anyone who asks is, if there is no external antenna or central antenna system available, try first with decent rabbit ear antennas. Those with built-in amp. And, *unlike* the picture in the article, do not obsess about keeping the antenna ON TOP OF the TV set. That's plain silly. I'm picking up stations with my fireplace antenna that Antennaweb claims are not even possible with a big "purple" outdoor antenna. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.