[opendtv] Closed systems

  • From: Albert Manfredi <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:41:14 -0500

Craig wrote:

And PCs make it easy in both directions.

Obviously not. You took the time to tell us how difficult it is to run OSX on
a
PC.

Don't be so thick, Craig. It is not the PC makers that deliberately make this
difficult, it is Apple. Apple wants to keep its ecosystem closed. This has its
own advantages, perhaps, but you need to understand the basic facts.

And I stand by what I said. The ATSC tuner mandate was a huge payoff to the
companies behind the ATSC standard. It cost taxpayers billions for the

A one time and tiny expense, which can't begin to be compared with the hugely
higher *and* recurring monthly expense of forcing everyone into walled gardens,
as you advocate.

Consumer electronics markets are intensely competitive and are unlikely areas
for economic regulation.

Dogmatic claptrap. If nothing else, you need safety regs, or the "intensely
competitive" would be likely to cut corners, and you need interoperability
regs, to curb the urge for companies to create walled gardens. So it's going to
be a balancing act, no matter how competitive.

The FCC was assigned responsibility for regulating the transition from analog
to digital broadcasting in an environment with a declining number of viewers
relying on over-the-air broadcasting.

And I thought it was high time. But the FCC was interested in recovering some
of that OTA spectrum for mobile, so the effort had non-TV industry benefits.

9. The FCC could eliminate the ATSC rule and obtain higher consumer welfare.

And force everyone in walled gardens. Again, radio evolved as an open system,
where ANYONE could build receiving equipment, if they built to the standard. TV
already existed, veryone was using the same NTSC standard. To make the shift to
a new and better standard, which also allows repurposing some of the TV band,
requires coordination. You don't need copious prose to explain the obvious.

Can you access multiple thousands of web sites on your AppleTV, Craig?
Yes with AirPlay.

So the answer is no. And the sam goes for Roku and the rest. These boxes DEPEND
ON COLLUSION. The fact that you need a special, non-standard "app" provide by
the content source is proof. You did not need any "app" to make your 1920s era
radio work, Craig.

First, search engines are not web browsers. They are extensions to a browser.

You got confused, and now you're trying to cover it up. Microsoft NEVER got in
trouble for forcing anyone to use their search engine. Ever. Tht'a why this was
never an issue for the congloms.

You could install alternative browsers, but the OS would continually try to
redirect you to I.E.,

That is completely false. And it has nothing to do with the GoogleTV issue wrt
congloms.

Still want to tell us that Windows was more open than Mac OS?

It obviously is. Not only can PCs run other OSs, but Windows is compatible with
any number of third part devices. It's the main reason why things don't always
work right, when a new OS comes out. Many many combinations to take into
account. Apple offers none of this interoperability. And it is this
interoperability that created the Windows monopoly in the workplace.

Sorry, better brush up on your history.
Read what you posted, Craig. It's exactly what I already explained to you.
Google wanted too much power in what consumers saw, as their TV program
choices. If the CE vendors had not all behaved like lemmings, it probably would
not have been a problem. And in any case, this had to do with the search
algorithm more than any browser, which is what you were trying to tell us.

Please show us where there is a bandwidth shortage.

Hilarious. You mean, quote you when you were trying to tell us that it will
take "decades" for people to be able to use Internet TV? Make up your mind,
Craig.

Bert







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