That's right, but it's a minor point, since they will start transitioning in earnest in 2009, with an end date uncertain at this point. The FCC has previously said that they will set the end date for LP analog "after" the full service transition, so it's not so hard to imagine that the date will be set in 2009. Also, NTSC tuners will become less and less prevalent in TV sets starting in 2009, particularly at the lower end of the market. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: CableLabs Proposes Specifications for OTA Reception in Cable Boxes > There is no requirement for LP stations to transition to DTV in 2009. > > Bob Miller > > On 3/9/07, Richard Hollandsworth <holl_ands@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Whereas with NTSC, only one program could be carried per channel, > > ATSC can support as many as five or six. > > This significantly changes the economic equation, making it easier for niche > > programs > > to lease bits, rather than buying a transmitter and building a tower. > > > > Most of the LP stations have, thus far, not participated in the DTV > > transistion, probably cuz there weren't enough channels for double NTSC/ATSC > > assignments. > > > > In 2009, when Analog LP stations transition to DTV, they could team together > > to share > > several different subprograms on a single transmitter, as we already see in > > L.A. > > (KVEA-DT, KXLA-DT, KVMD-DT). > > > > Since DTV stations can be paced into nearly EVERY channel position across > > the > > greater metro area, that's a LOT of available program capacity.... > > > > Related question: what's going to happen to all of that expensive hardware > > when current Analog > > and duplicate DTV stations transition to their final configuration and > > nearly half the > > transmitters/towers in America become "excess"..... > > > > I'm predicting a bunch are simply shut down and an even bigger bunch will be > > upgraded > > to carry some of the current LP programs plus a bunch of new niche > > stations.... > > > > And perhaps even delivery of movies (HD-DVD, p*orn, whatever) via encrypted > > MPEG4 streams... > > > > holl_ands > > > > =============================================== > > > > Cliff Benham <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Richard Hollandsworth > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:51 PM > > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [opendtv] Re: CableLabs Proposes Specifications for OTA Reception > > in Cable Boxes > > > > > > It would also give cable systems "cover" to argue against Multicast Must > > Carry. > > They could argue that there was NO NEED to carry dozens (hundreds?) of > > religious/anti-religious/girl scouts/pop warner/shopping/high school > > sports/etc channels--just connect an antenna.... > > > > holl_ands > > > > [Cliff Benham] Although there are some religious OTA broadcasters, please > > tell me where there are any OTA analog or digital broadcasts of > > "anti-religious/girl scouts/pop warner/shopping/high school sports/etc > > channels" in the US. > > > > To the best of my knowledge they are all on cable or satellite. But NOT OTA. > > > > There is only one "free speech" channel and that is carried by Dish, but not > > by DirecTV. > > > > There is only one ARTS channel which runs free 24 hours a day on C-Band, but > > is not carried by many broadcasters unless it is for a half hour at 1AM, or > > later and almost never, even for short segments by cable. I installed a 2.4 > > meter antenna and purchased a 4DTV receiver just so I could watch Classic > > Arts Showcase whenever I want. > > > > My point is that niche programming is only somewhat available on cable [for > > a price] or on DBS [for a price]. > > It is not available for free anywhere, the ARTS Channel excepted, but that's > > assuming you have spent a grand or so on an antenna and receiver.. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > > always stay connected to friends. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.