[opendtv] Re: CableLabs Proposes Specifications for OTA Reception in Cable Boxes

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:50:04 -0800

  Most of the LP stations have, thus far, not participated in the DTV 
transistion, probably cuz there weren't enough channels for double NTSC/ATSC 
  <jw>  There are more than a few LP/Tx stations already building out companion 
channels, but there's a nit to pick in you terminology, since there are no 
assignments or allocations for LPTV and tv translators.    The other side of 
that is that the new channels cannot create more than deminimus interference to 
full service stations operating on allocated channels, and LPTV/Tv translators 
must accept interference from full service stations.  If the interference is 
great, you're unlikely to have much service.

  In 2009, when Analog LP stations transition to DTV, they could team together 
to share
  several different subprograms on a single transmitter, as we already see in 

  Since DTV stations can be paced into nearly EVERY channel position across the
  greater metro area, that's a LOT of available program capacity....

  Related question: what's going to happen to all of that expensive hardware 
when current Analog
  and duplicate DTV stations transition to their final configuration and nearly 
half the
  transmitters/towers in America become "excess".....

  <jw>  Gonna be a whole lot of cheap used, but recent vintage high quality 
(digital ready) transmitters and exciters on the marketplace.  A customer of 
mine is just waiting to buy.  Towers are virtually worthless; the cost of 
dismantling, transport and reassembly is so great that the market is largely 
the third world.  Not to forget the siting issues that are so relevant in the 

  I'm predicting a bunch are simply shut down and an even bigger bunch will be 
  to carry some of the current LP programs plus a bunch of new niche 

  And perhaps even delivery of movies (HD-DVD, p*orn, whatever) via encrypted 
MPEG4 streams...

  <jw>  It's always hard to get pay tv approved since it's a non-broadcast 
service.  Easier with LPTV than full service.
  John willkie


  Cliff Benham <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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      Subject: [opendtv] Re: CableLabs Proposes Specifications for OTA 
Reception in Cable Boxes

      It would also give cable systems "cover" to argue against Multicast Must 
      They could argue that there was NO NEED to carry dozens (hundreds?) of 
religious/anti-religious/girl scouts/pop warner/shopping/high school sports/etc 
channels--just connect an antenna....


      [Cliff Benham] Although there are some religious OTA broadcasters, please 
tell me where there are any OTA analog or digital broadcasts of 
"anti-religious/girl scouts/pop warner/shopping/high school sports/etc 
channels" in the US. 

      To the best of my knowledge they are all on cable or satellite. But NOT 

      There is only one "free speech" channel and that is carried by Dish, but 
not by DirecTV.

      There is only one ARTS channel which runs free 24 hours a day on C-Band, 
but is not carried by many broadcasters unless it is for a half hour at 1AM, or 
later and almost never, even for short segments by cable. I installed a 2.4 
meter antenna and purchased a 4DTV receiver just so I could watch Classic Arts 
Showcase whenever I want. 

      My point is that niche programming is only somewhat available on cable 
[for a price] or on DBS [for a price]. 
      It is not available for free anywhere, the ARTS Channel excepted, but 
that's assuming you have spent a grand or so on an antenna and receiver..  

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