Broadcast TV viewers are "bottom feeders"? Please, Craig. I think that the advertising providers that service the MSO/telco side (which is what the message was really addressing) would be the ones more accurately called bottom feeders. True, the ads that are inserted into many of the national cable networks (and NOT broadcaster signals, by the way) are largely SD, and often hyper -local. I HAVE watched a lot of broadcast ads (purely for professional purposes...) and while I don't have any hard data on the number or percentage of HD ads, any SD ads stick out like a sore thumb on a 16x9 HD display. Many (and I might say most, even though I don't have the numbers to back that up) of the ads that run in prime time on the nets, and even some of the local ads, are HD. This would include NFL broadcasts. Perhaps the folks that deliver the ads to broadcasters and national cable services (as opposed to the local MSO/telco cable marketplace) would have a better handle on the status of the HD ad marketplace. Ken -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:34 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Bottom Feeders? At 9:58 AM -0600 1/30/11, John McClenny wrote: >On the MSO/telco side, the ad avail on the HD channel you get for free >if you buy the SD ad avail. > >And HD ads are still a rarity in the Ad Interconnect market. > >i didn't quite understand how tradition bound the TV advertising market >was until I started working in it. > >Doc. Is it tradition bound, or pragmatism... All this raises an interesting question: Who's really watching? That is, who are the advertisers trying to reach? What are they watching, and on what kind of TV? The answer to these questions is likely to be found in the demographics of the remaining broadcast TV audience. The term bottom feeders has been used for a decade or two to describe the broadcast TV audience. I suspect that the additional investment in HD ads may not be important to the largest segments of the audience reached by advertisers... One might verify this to an extent by comparing the percentage of ads that are in HD on ESPN and the NFL games carried by the broadcast networks... Any thoughts? Regards Craig P.S. I often cannot tell you what the ads look like because I only "hear them" while I am busy doing something else... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.