It's irrelevant, as I said previously. Such an analysis disadvantages successful companies, and elevates unsuccessful ones. More relevant is what you (or others) have access to in a community, or across communities. Also, most people don't equate ownership (equity) with control. Control is much more important. Most of these are highly-concentrated companies in terms of control, but diffused ownership by tens of thousands of shareholders (or millions.) And, I can't respond to your query, because they didn't go on a expansion and buying spree in the 1990's. As those who were awake and memories recall, the expansion and buying spree in media was in the 1980's. Think: National Amusements buying Viacom. Think: Tci buying up every cheap, two-bit cable system with three channels of sometimes clear video. Think Turner buying MGM. Think Turner refinancing Turner Networks a few weeks later. Think Warner Cable going to Viacom. Think Mike Milken. He financed most of these deais, or was going to, until others gave better deals to the purchaser. Milken was "out of it" effective 1990. The 1990's was about radio consolidation, almost exclusively. Sure, the 1991 passage of the network ownership of program distributors opened up things a bit, permitting Viacom to buy CBS (before shedding it again) and Disney to buy ABC. They were able to do so due to the "voices test" that the FCC imposed, in no small part due to the work and thoughts of Barbara Kreisman. I would offer that the "voices" test came indirectly out of the "Voicecount" project I was once involved in. A voices test doesn't ask "what percentage of the viewers will your stations have", but "if we approve this merger, how many independent media voices will this town offer?" John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Craig Birkmaier Enviado el: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:54 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Bob, where are the tunerless monitors? At 1:19 PM -0400 7/18/07, Tom Barry wrote: >Measuring ad revenue from cable channels and non-cable channels is >almost an artificial distinction these days since the same 5 >companies own them both, or at least the content for both. > >I wonder what is the total TV ad revenue per year is for all >channels NOT owned by Viacom, Fox, Disney, GE, or TW? > >- Tom Thanks for bringing this up Tom. Yesterday , while working the thought occurred to me that I should ask John W. why these five companies went on a expansion and buying spree in the '90s, developing new cable networks and gobbling up almost every existing cable network, with the net result that they now control 90% of what EVERYONE watches...again. If the broadcast networks are SOOOOOOOO great, why not follow John's lead and not worry about cable? Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.