Frank, However most people in the US are not currently affected as 85% are on ca= ble/satellite, NTSC continues, and when the baloon goes up to reveal indo= or OTA DTV doesn't work there will be such an outcry that, well folks, NT= SC will continue. The only people to lose their shirts will be CE and sil= icon vendors prepared to spend millions of dollars on bleeding edge 8VSB = technology: and how many CEOs, CFOs and investors will sanction that spen= d if there are no perceived markets? None: which is what we are seeing ri= ght now. The vendor community is walking away.. Now a 'completely new and unproven digital modulation technology': wasn't= that what they said about COFDM in the period 1993-1998?. They are not l= aughing now.. What a tragic mess US DTV has become!. Kind Regards, Dermot Nolan -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: "'opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'", INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = Date: 21/03/105 21:11 PM RE: [opendtv] Re: Bob likes COFDM = Tom Barry wrote: >How many generations should LG/Zenith be allowed before we are = >allowed to start making fun of them? Give them a break -- it takes hundreds of man-years and millions of R&D d= ollars to invent & productize a completely new and unproven digital modul= ation system, and then optimize it for a particular application like OTA = DTV. This is still pretty bleeding-edge technology, and it may take a few= more generations to get it right. In any case, I don't believe that "making fun of them" is the appropriate= response. Crying, screaming and hair-pulling, perhaps -- but there's not= hing particularly funny about this situation. -- Frank = = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at Fr= eeLists.org = - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word un= subscribe in the subject line. ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239= .180]) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-2.17) with ESMTP id j2LLA= JLB021662 for <dmenolan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id 774A88858B; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22013-06; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id 0027A88586; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list opendtv); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:12 = -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Delivered-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id DB292881C7 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21873-02 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from az33egw02.freescale.net (az33egw02.freescale.net [192.88.1= 58.103]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id 9C01C8829A for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from az33smr01.freescale.net (az33smr01.freescale.net [10.64.34= .199]) by az33egw02.freescale.net (8.12.11/az33egw02) with ESMTP id j2LLBjqK011= 313 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from az33exm42.am.freescale.net (az33exm42.am.freescale.net [10= .64.34.248]) by az33smr01.freescale.net (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2LLBlXS015774 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:11:47 -0600 (CST) Received: by az33exm42.am.freescale.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2= 657.72) id <HKCZ33Q1>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:10:02 -0700 Message-ID: <B9686C92B2F8D811B6BC000F20D7E464096F84C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= ale.net> From: Eory Frank-p22212 <Frank.Eory@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Bob likes COFDM Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:10:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.7= 5c on siaag1ab.compuserve.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 6969 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Errors-To: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx X-original-sender: Frank.Eory@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: normal Reply-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx X-list: opendtv X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-Virus-Status: Clean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.