I found some info that I hadn't seen before, with respect to details of the Berlin DTT SFNs. The Berlin DTT system, if you remember, is a set of seven 8 MHz channels, each one transmitting 4 program streams. And the report http://www.mabb.de/bilder/Projektbericht_engl.pdf explains that the SFNs consist of two transmitters, with output power varying between the different channels, from a low of 25 KW (VHF) to a high of 180 KW. More info is given in http://www.garv.de/dvb_t_programme.htm It wasn't clear that the info would be here, because they only say that program info is given at that URL. But in fact they also show the towers, the power output, and the COFDM modes used. 1. The power output given in the project report (the first URL listed) is a total of the power outputs from each of the two or three towers. In fact, three towers are used for the two VHF channels and one of the UHF channels. 2. The main transmitter site at Alexanderplatz transmits 10 KW for each VHF channel, 120 KW for two of the UHF channels, and 20 or 10 KW for the remaining three UHF channels. 3. A second tower, SW of the main one, is used for all channels. This one, Shaefersberg, transmits 5 KW for VHF, 50 KW for all but one UHF channels, and 20 KW for one UHF channel. 4. The two VHF channels and one of the UHF channel also use a third transmitter, west of the main one, at Scholtzplatz. This one is 10 KW for each of the three channels it supports. Turns out the max output for any given channel is actually only 170 KW, not 180 KW, but only 120 KW, at best, can really be counted for coverage to the North and East. Which explains the pattern. Since the Alexanderplatz and Schaefersberg towers are roughly 10.6 miles apart as the crow flies, they could not use 1/16 GI for this unsynchronized SFN. So they dialed in 1/8 GI, good for 14 mile spacing, and with 16-QAM and 2/3 FEC they achieve 14.75 Mb/s in each 8 MHz band. And the C/N margin required is 11.1 to 14.2 dB. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.