[opendtv] Re: Barriers eroding to LCD TV adoption

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:27:02 -0400

I briefly owned a USDTV receiver last week that I bought on impulse at 
the Walmart a couple blocks away for $199.  While it had some issues and 
I returned it I think it still performed as well as all my various PCHD 
cards.  But was disappointing when compared to my expecations of it 
being a "fourth generation" chip.   (NXT2004?) And like all the others 
it still couldn't get the WB in HD here in Jacksonville.

But in any event, that $199 is not a sale price, is generally available, 
and has to be considered the new low end STB comparison price now.

- Tom


Manfredi, Albert E wrote:

> Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> 
> 
>>I have been saying for several years that the price delta will be at
>>least $300 for years to come.
> 
> 
> Then how come Mark writes:
> 
> " - It might be worth noting that ATI's new HDTV Wonder
> card, approximating the circuitry needed to add DTT reception
> to a TV, retails for $199:
> <http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1619390,00.asp>"
> 
> Clearly, if the separate PC card can be sold for under $200, a
> built-in front end, without PCI backplane, should go for much
> less.
> 
> Also, if STBs came in at under $300 last Christmas, and a few
> were as low as $200 at Circuit City (could be old remnants, but
> still), it just makes no sense to keep insisting on $300 as
> premium when the front end is built-in. Pure nonsense, yes?
> 
> Also, I pointed out a two-chip front end that lists for $80
> not long ago. Even adding in royalties and markup, even this
> year, it's hard to justify any $300. Let alone "for years to
> come."
> 
> 
>>Others were saying
>>that the added cost delta would soon be $50...
> 
> 
> "Others" would be Motorola. By 2007. Sounds pretty credible to
> me. I've been guesstimating less than that, by 1/1/2007.
> Assuming the FCC doesn't levy some new requirements, of course.
> 
> 
>>that's barely enough to
>>cover the cost of all the royalty payments.
> 
> 
> I thought the royalty payments were less than $20 all told?
> And they will run out, eventually.
> 
> 
>>Am I surprised that the delta has now shrunk to only $300 on the
>>cheapest models?
> 
> 
> If the 1st generation RCA DTC 100 in its final stand-alone
> version listed for about $459, the $300 premium for built-in front
> ends today can *only* indicate that the prices are way inflated. I
> don't understand how anything else could be concluded. And what
> would be so strange about inflated prices the first year a CE
> product category is on the market?
> 
> Bert
>  
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