[opendtv] Re: Apple TV Remote Expected to Add Touch Pad in Redesign - NYTimes.com

  • From: Ron Economos <w6rz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:21:23 -0700

Try this game with a mouse and then try it with a touchscreen. :-)

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Ron

On 05/27/2015 03:15 PM, Manfredi, Albert E wrote:

Craig Birkmaier wrote:

Motor skills have very little to do with this; a toddler may be able
to turn the pages of a book, but they cannot read.
If the toddler can't read, Craig, then he can still look at the pictures, point
at the pictures, and so on. Just as he would on a touchscreen. Using a
touchscreen does not magically allow the toddler to read. It does take a little
bit more dexterity to use a mouse, but I would not extrapolate any huge
metaphysical significance from this. Yes, I have seen toddlers perfectly adept
at using touchscreens, even when they can't yet tie their own shoes.

The touch interface is much more natural,
Mostly, the touchscreen is used when a peripheral mouse, or touchpad, is out of
the question, *and* the screen is within easy reach.

This is especially inappropriate in the lean back environment of
the family room, where you need a table or other surface to
operate the mouse.
Presumably, you're sitting on something, right? That's your surface. As I said,
now that Apple figured out how to put a touchpad on a remote control, you
should be changing your tune, no? Apple decided to use the touchpad, where the
surface is the remote control itself, rather than the older tech remote. At
last.

For pointing and click or touch and drag both work about the same.
The reason the mouse can do more is the buttons, which can be
programmed to facilitate additional tasks.
Yes, the buttons help a lot. That's part of what makes it much more flexible
than the touchscreen. Also, the pointer can be more accurate than a fat paw.
It's simply a more complete solution, which can also be used to emulate the
touchscreen's simpler approach (e.g. when the screen is too far to reach, like
on a TV set across the room).

nor is there a need to have the user focus his attention on a
second device, just to make selections for the main device.
Do you watch your hand when using a mouse to operate a PC?
Of course not, nor do I look at the mouse when operating my PC/TV combination.
The point I'm making is that if you use a tablet to control the TV, THEN you
have to turn your attention from the TV to the tablet, when touching its
screen, rather than just staying focused on the TV. I know a lot of giddy trade
scribes, having discovered tablets, felt obliged to dream up a lot of
questionable uses for it. And these excuses usually sound lame to me. Like,
tablets behaving like $400+ remote controls that are quite totally unnecessary.

As for focusing attention on a second device, the TV industry
has a huge problem:

DISTRACTED TV WATCHING.
You totally missed my point. If you want a tablet while watching TV, in fact a
much better use for it IS to use it for stuff either unrelated, or tangentially
related, to what's showing on the TV. Dedicating this expensive computer to the
menial task of remote control, and having to distract yourself from the TV to
control the TV, is just silliness. Not too different, btw, from having a
touchscreen in a car, to control whatever systems while you're driving. It's
very simply: BAD ergonomics.

Bert

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