John Shutt wrote: > Wow, what a revision of history, Bert. And you're old enough > to remember the truth. > > When CompuServe was conceived, there was no other way to reach > the "internet" for anyone outside of academia and the military. > The local Telcos weren't offering dialup internet access. The > web browser hadn't yet been conceived. Whoa. First of all, they were talking WWW not just Internet. The WWW was introduced in 1993/1994, along with Mosaic and also a low-budget browser you could add to MS Word. Let me quote from the article: "In those early days of the Web, users viewed content using those specific systems; that is, AOL users saw only AOL content." So, they are talking WWW. They aren't going as far back as when access was only via .mil and .edu. (Which I do remember well too, of course.) Secondly, there certainly were ways to access the Internet, and therefore the Web, without using AOL or Compuserve. Guess what? That's why I didn't use either service! I used a dialup service called Erol's at the time, when at home. At work, of course, we had full access too, and much faster than dialup. In college, my daughter equally had open access. > CompuServe introduced the idea of buying airline tickets online > at a discount. CompuServe and AOL partnered with businesses to > get the whole concept of eCommerce started. We would have to go and look at specific dates, John, because we were using e-commerce from way back, without being impeded by either AOL or Compuserve. We have different perspectives probably due to the different ways we were introduced into this Internet. But the simple fact remains, the Internet and the WWW were **NEVER** walled gardens. The procols are not walled. It was those two companies that created the barriers, NOT the protocols. So it is simply FALSE to say that "you can't put humpty dumpty together again." Maybe AOL can't get away with it anymore is much closer to the truth. Sorry, John, I ain't the one who got it backwards. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.