[opendtv] Re: ATSC and Lip Sync
- From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:52:17 -0400
Very well, Cliff. I am sure it is your prompting 10 years ago that has led
to "CEA and ATSC working on the lip sync problem." Thanks for your
contribution.
Leonard Caillouet
Gainesville, FL
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Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:36 AM
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Subject: [opendtv] Re: ATSC and Lip Sync
Leonard Caillouet wrote:
Cliff, the refrain that problems are due to deregulation, and the comments
that you don't care about why they problems occur make it hard to take you
seriously. At what level and in what form should regulation be applied?
Have you ever worked at a TV station that was fined $10,000 by the FCC for
not broadcasting video on line 21?
For someone who has worked as an engineer for as long as you say you have,
I find your perspective curious. Regulation needs to be careful and smart,
not applied in a shotgun approach. We should have learned that lesson
really well in the last few years from the financial markets. It is very
easy to assign blame to government for letting the industry run carelessly.
It is harder to do your job as part of that industry to contribute to an
understanding of the problem and to its solution. Several posters here
have taken the latter approach, and have contributed to an understanding of
the problem and where solutions may be found, and I thank them. Your
comments below don't make much of a useful contribution at all, IMO.
I've never been one to sugar-coat my comments.
In those ten years that you mention, what have you done to contribute to a
solution?
I've attempted to bring the problem to the attention of those with greater
industry influence who might be able to change it.
Frankly, on the consumer end, I don't get as many complaints as we did a
couple of years ago about lip sync issues, and don't see as much of it
myself. It may be increasing as a problem as you suggest, but my experience
does not indicate that it is such a problem that we need to approach
regulation as a solution.
I only repeated Mark's comment about the problem getting worse.
The industry continues to work on solutions, and (some) engineers are
becoming more educated on the various contributing factors, so what would
you suggest be done, exactly?
John Shutt's post about the CEA and ATSC working on the lip sync problem in
receivers is what I suggested should be happening 10 years ago.
http://sportsvideo.org/blogs/hpa/2009/02/18/atsc-cea-working-to-make-tv-rece
ivers-less-prone-to-lip-sync-woes/
The idea that the industry has continually degraded since before the
transition is also hard to understand. While I have a bit of an outside
view, it seems that we have a much larger choice of content and improved
quality for most consumers. While there are problems, like there have
always been, there is also some astounding quality out there. Along the
way, the level of understanding of the problems seems to be increasing as
the transition proceeds. I would not suggest that there are not problems,
but your pessimistic view reminds me of many of the "old dogs" in my field
(repair and calibration) who simply lament the loss of things more familiar
and simple.
Also, please be more careful to define where your quotes end and your
comments start.
Is this good enough?
The lack of punctuation and the content of the following sentence made it
seem obvious where Mark Schubin's remarks started and yours begin, but those
less familiar with both of your postings might not get the break point. I
am sure that he would not like to have your comments confused as being his.
Leonard Caillouet
Gainesville, FL
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