[opendtv] Re: ATSC and Lip Sync

  • From: Cliff Benham <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:35:46 -0400

Leonard Caillouet wrote:

Cliff, the refrain that problems are due to deregulation, and the comments that you don't care about why they problems occur make it hard to take you seriously. At what level and in what form should regulation be applied?

Have you ever worked at a TV station that was fined $10,000 by the FCC for not broadcasting video on line 21?

For someone who has worked as an engineer for as long as you say you have, I find your perspective curious. Regulation needs to be careful and smart, not applied in a shotgun approach. We should have learned that lesson really well in the last few years from the financial markets. It is very easy to assign blame to government for letting the industry run carelessly. It is harder to do your job as part of that industry to contribute to an understanding of the problem and to its solution. Several posters here have taken the latter approach, and have contributed to an understanding of the problem and where solutions may be found, and I thank them. Your comments below don't make much of a useful contribution at all, IMO.

I've never been one to sugar-coat my comments.

In those ten years that you mention, what have you done to contribute to a solution?

I've attempted to bring the problem to the attention of those with greater industry influence who might be able to change it.

Frankly, on the consumer end, I don't get as many complaints as we did a couple of years ago about lip sync issues, and don't see as much of it myself. It may be increasing as a problem as you suggest, but my experience does not indicate that it is such a problem that we need to approach regulation as a solution.

I only repeated Mark's comment about the problem getting worse.

The industry continues to work on solutions, and (some) engineers are becoming more educated on the various contributing factors, so what would you suggest be done, exactly?

John Shutt's post about the CEA and ATSC working on the lip sync problem in receivers is what I suggested should be happening 10 years ago. http://sportsvideo.org/blogs/hpa/2009/02/18/atsc-cea-working-to-make-tv-receivers-less-prone-to-lip-sync-woes/

The idea that the industry has continually degraded since before the transition is also hard to understand. While I have a bit of an outside view, it seems that we have a much larger choice of content and improved quality for most consumers. While there are problems, like there have always been, there is also some astounding quality out there. Along the way, the level of understanding of the problems seems to be increasing as the transition proceeds. I would not suggest that there are not problems, but your pessimistic view reminds me of many of the "old dogs" in my field (repair and calibration) who simply lament the loss of things more familiar and simple. Also, please be more careful to define where your quotes end and your comments start.
Is this good enough?

The lack of punctuation and the content of the following sentence made it seem obvious where Mark Schubin's remarks started and yours begin, but those less familiar with both of your postings might not get the break point. I am sure that he would not like to have your comments confused as being his.

Leonard Caillouet

Gainesville, FL

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