DRM controls (similar to DTCP "5C") are also found on the Component Video I/F, see CEA-805C: http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/1/6560.html#POST32596 Which explains why the Hauppauge C.V. I/F recorder hasn't been sued off the market.... holl_ands ================================================= --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Ron Economos <w6rz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Ron Economos <w6rz@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [opendtv] Re: ATSC High Def Recorder To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:50 AM DTCP/5C only exists on IEEE1394 or IP (DLNA) connections. Certainly not component connections. Besides, the whole point of the Hauppauge HD-PVR is to get around 5C/DTCP. Ron Richard Hollandsworth wrote: BTW: The Hauppauge HD-PVR records HD programs to Blu-Ray disc, with HD Component Video input from either Cable, SAT or OTA Receiver. [Presumably uses DTCP "5C" copy control.] http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html holl_ands