I doubt that any country paid ATSC anything in the way of dues. And, you continue your tradition of trying to refute something I didn't say. I never said that Taiwan was broadcasting using 8-VSB, and I never said that they weren't using COFDM. What it matters to those of us in the industry -- unlike dilletantes -- is that if you support A/65, you have to include at least the possibility of having a rating region for Taiwan. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: A detail in the history of video standards > Here is a decent history of Taiwan and 8-VSB. I noticed that the ATSC > kept Taiwan on their site as an ATSC country long after Taiwan had > officially switched. They may still list them as ATSC. What does that > mean? I doubt if Taiwan is paying its ATSC dues. > > http://www2.rfsworld.com/StayConnected/index_ie2.html?ns_head.html&http://www2.rfsworld.com/StayConnected/broadcast/broadcast_0303_2.html > > "In 1998, a formal decision was made for Taiwan to adopt the US > ‘advanced television systems committee’ (ATSC) digital standard. Based > on 8-vestigial side-band (8-VSB) technology, ATSC appeared at the time > to be a logical choice, given its ready application to 6-MHz channels > and the NTSC standard being used for analogue TV." > > And.... > > "After changing the pilot station equipment from 8-VSB to DVB-T devices, > it was found that the problem of multi-path interference was largely > solved,” says Chung. By the end of June 2001, Taiwan had reversed its > original decision and adopted the DVB-T standard." > > Bob Miller > > John Willkie wrote: > > >Three is greater than five. sure. But, did you note that aside from MBC, > >the web site you pointed me to, no broadcaster outside of Seoul had > >transmitters? I said that there were only three channels for the entire > >country. I am corrected: Seoul has five -- per that web site -- and the > >rest of the country has just one, a live retransmission of what's being > >shown on MBC in Seoul. > > > >My point was that Tijuana -- a third world city of 2.5 million -- has more > >media diversity than the countries I mentioned. Funny you can only nip > >around the edges of that. And, I can only presume that you now concede > >Taiwan to be ATSC country. I note that not everybody thinks Taiwan is a > >country. > > > >John > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:23 AM > >Subject: [opendtv] Re: A detail in the history of video standards > > > > > > > > > >>John Willkie wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I count at best 5 TV stations > >>>in Seoul. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Five is more than three, and Seoul is a city, not a country. > >> > >> > >> > >>>I spent only about 30 > >>>seconds to refute your web site. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Believe what you'd like. > >> > >>TTFN, > >>Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.